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11-06-2015, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Yep, I guess I just don't feel guilty. I understand the caution but even if I had done something wrong that I didn't recall, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable about the call. You could always chose to not answer or make any statements I guess.
It sounded like the OP said the call had already been made. Can we have the result?
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11-06-2015, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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"The FAA called me today to tell me how awesome of a pilot I am and how much they appreciate me flying and how I maintain my airplane."
...said no pilot ever.
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11-06-2015, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fredericksburg, TX
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I would have made the call. If the call turned bad you can easily end the call and state that your lawyer will be in touch.
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11-06-2015, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRV7
... Can we have the result?
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The attorney left a message for the FSDO rep, who has been out of the office, returning today. When and if he fills me in, I will post the appropriately redacted results.
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11-06-2015, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC & CA
Posts: 907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n5lp
I got just such a call and I did call back. I knew what the issue was as I had previously been asked to call ABQ Center about the complaint and was confident that I had not violated any FARs. The fellow at the FSDO, who I happened to know slightly, told me about the complaint he had received and assured me I hadn't done anything wrong. He said he needed to put a note in the file that he had contacted me. He also remarked that the people I had annoyed must be quite powerful.
The call was very pleasant and the two of us ended up chatting about the wonders of being able to fly freely about looking at amazing things.
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I received a letter stating to please give them a call. They reported they had transponder tracking data showing that I violated San Diego Class B airspace near Miramar. I am intimately familiar with the local area Class B and know all the ground tracks and altitudes to avoid such. I returned the call.
They were very cordial. When I told them my aircraft did not have an electrical system that ended the inquiry.
Regarding the OP: I'm not sure I would lawyer up for the initial call. Just find out what they want, and if the charges are threatening, respectfully advise them you will have your agent contact them.
Regards,
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Last edited by TomVal : 11-06-2015 at 10:14 AM.
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11-06-2015, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pilot Hill, CA
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I spoke to a pilot at my field recently who said he/she was landing at an airport near San Francisco. After entering the Class D airspace the tower directed him/her to call the tower. The tower advised the pilot he/she busted a POTUS TFR.
What is the likely outcome of that I wonder?
Flight following.
As a relatively new pilot the things I learned or reinforced were basic but important:
FAR 91.103
Preflight action
Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become familiar with ALL available information concerning that flight.
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11-06-2015, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Alberta
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I think Ronald Reagan said that the 11 most frightening words in the English language, "I'm from the government and I am here to help you".
They are not calling to tell you that your plane is cute.
If FSDO wants to talk, let them write a letter. Talking can get you in all kinds of trouble even if you don't think you have done anything wrong.
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11-06-2015, 11:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: D.C.
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Originally Posted by Far North Texan
They are not calling to tell you that your plane is cute.
If FSDO wants to talk, let them write a letter. Talking can get you in all kinds of trouble even if you don't think you have done anything wrong.
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This is rather extreme in my opinion. This can turn a mole hill into a mountain. If a pilot is unable of returning a phone call to find out what an adminstrator wants without incriminating his or herself one would have to wonder. I'm not saying jump to return the call...by all means prepare before hand and when in doubt, shut up.
If you prefer to receive official notification of an investigation or request for information because you want to avoid "the man"...have at it. To each their own.
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Fayetteville, NC
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11-06-2015, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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Back in the 80s while working on my PPL in so cal, I busted an airspace, got told to call a phone number, basically just listened and let them do their job, and in a few minutes it was all over, basically, it went like, did you do this? Um..don't know, well, don't do it again, .....OK, that was that.
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11-06-2015, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
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I wouldn't make the call.
I had a friend who had made that call after a school teacher reported a low flying aircraft above the school on the anniversary of 911.
He made the call and lost his flying privileges for 6 months. He had no way to defend himself. His attorney said, in the future. "Don't make the call"
He didn't realize there was a school close to the traffic pattern. He paid the price for it. It was unintentional.
Prior to that incident, I had returned a call at the towers request. I was accused of busting a class D airspace enroute. I denied it as I was showing & explaining to my passenger the airspace rules while I flew outside it. They just told me to get training on the local airspace. Never again will I make the call.
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Last edited by roadrunner20 : 11-06-2015 at 12:09 PM.
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