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Old 11-05-2015, 08:08 AM
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Default washers etc.

Nylon washers are recommended by 3M under mechanical fasteners for their traffic products ( reflective) and of course, would be a good idea here as well.
now, finding BLACK or clear nylon washers, perhaps a little harder.
if avoiding washers, I'd say use adhesion promoter around the screw and instrument holes, leave the vinyl on for at least a week to fully 'cure', and install screws when the vinyl/panel is cool to minimize stretch. Obviously, going slow and using minimal torque.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:11 AM
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Here is silver carbon-fiber-look vinyl on my panel. I used round headed screws with SS washers - liked the look. Still looks great. http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...0&postcount=94





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Old 11-05-2015, 08:33 AM
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Default Here's mine in black 3M carbon fiber vinyl.

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Hi All,

Is there any reason one would not want to install a high performance vinyl on the instrument panel rather than paint, power coat, etc?

I countersank many mounting screws. After applying the 3M vinyl I used a snapoff hobby razor to circumcise all holes and cutouts. It made very clean cuts and allowed tightening screws without concern for wrinkling. Screw heads were painted black. I'd do it again anytime.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:34 AM
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Nylon washers are recommended by 3M under mechanical fasteners for their traffic products ( reflective) and of course, would be a good idea here as well.
now, finding BLACK or clear nylon washers, perhaps a little harder.
if avoiding washers, I'd say use adhesion promoter around the screw and instrument holes, leave the vinyl on for at least a week to fully 'cure', and install screws when the vinyl/panel is cool to minimize stretch. Obviously, going slow and using minimal torque.
I found the black nylon washers, but you have to search metric dimensions.

These are only 0.015 larger ID than a #6 screw clearance.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01..._prd_ttl_sol_0

They look good with black screws and the 3M carbon look vinyl overlay.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._prd_ttl_sol_1

http://www.carbonfiberfilm.com/

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Just noticed one of the carbonfiberfilm.com examples is a RV panel...

http://www.carbonfiberfilm.com/blog/...n-fiber-vinyl/
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:39 AM
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I'm in the middle of redesigning my panel and would also like to have a carbon fiber look. Up to now, I've considered using a method called "Hydro Dipping" to give it the look and finish I'm going for. I'm curious if anyone else out there has experimented with this technique?
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:19 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll go for it! I'll do before and after photos when I get going on it.

Probably a January project for me, since I'll have some downtime and the weather in Dallas will favor working on planes rather than flying them.
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I think the one thing I would do differently next time on a 7A is not make the mistake of using a glossy finish on the panel and glareshield.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:44 AM
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I'm in the middle of redesigning my panel and would also like to have a carbon fiber look. Up to now, I've considered using a method called "Hydro Dipping" to give it the look and finish I'm going for. I'm curious if anyone else out there has experimented with this technique?
Mark AKA Charliewaffles did the on his -10 components. Looked great! And better for compound curves like center units and throttle controls
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:56 PM
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I'm considering Vinyl to do a color change on my panel.

I'd like to switch to the carbon look, but I know I'm going to re-do the whole thing by 2020, so I think if vinyl will look good and last me a few years that would be a good interim step.

Any current thoughts on materials, vendors, etc?

Thank you!
If you'd like to switch to the Carbon Fiber look, the easiest/quickest and nicest solution is just to use Carbon sheet (actual Carbon Fiber) itself...unless you have a Aerosport (which already is a carbon panel) or other shapely panel...flat prepregged/layed up carbon sheet is readily available online from a number of sources in many different thicknesses, finishes, colors, weaves and gloss levels (from flat matte to mirror polish) with adhesive pre-applied or not...and it's not terribly difficult to work with either (though if you're going to cut it on a CNC it will eat up tooling so just be prepared fro that).

Of course you can use something like Dinoc or 3M, but I'd still recommend real carbon or hydrographics to Vinyl...

Just my 2 cents as usual.

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Old 11-05-2015, 02:29 PM
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Here's basically what I'm starting with and I want to just do color for now, and then redo structure when I decide if I'm going to throw in a D-120 and remove all the roundies, or go with Skyview and build from scratch, or whatever.

I'm not sure if I'm saving time/money with the Vinyl, or if doing it all one piece now and then perhaps again later makes more sense.

Thoughts?

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