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10-29-2015, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
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My .02 on the rental idea.
At the prices most FBOs require for X-country rentals I cannot help but think that OWNING a second 4-place airplane might be cheaper than the rental route. Finding a quality 172 or some other such reasonably priced older 4-place airplane would surly be comparable to the type of airplane one would rent at an FBO. There would be no schedule problems, you could maintain control of the quality of the aircraft, you could have a great trainer airplane for the up and coming new pilot in the family (  ), if you wanted to create your own club made up of close trustworthy friends you have a vehicle ready for the endeavor. I see an awful lot of positives and few negatives for someone doing this who may be contemplating renting a 4-place a few times a year. To me it is like owning your own home vs renting, or perhaps more to the point, going to a laundry mat vs owning your own washer and dryer.
Anyway, food for thought.
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10-29-2015, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 82
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Originally Posted by Dmadd
Steve,
That video says more about you and how you raised that boy than anything else. Well done amigo. Well done.
DM
oh, keep the plane...:-)
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Hear, Hear!
Exactly what I was thinking.
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10-29-2015, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVbySDI
I see an awful lot of positives and few negatives for someone doing this who may be contemplating renting a 4-place a few times a year. To me it is like owning your own home vs renting, or perhaps more to the point, going to a laundry mat vs owning your own washer and dryer.
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The key is useage. How often will it fly? To use your examples, if you had a vacation home you only used 4 times a year, you would rent, not own. And if you only did your laundry 4 times a year you wouldn't own a washer!
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10-29-2015, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Aurora, OR
Posts: 841
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Yeah, I think your son's made a pretty awesome and very thoughtful statement, and maybe you need to keep that plane for more than just practical reasons. He got his pilot license yet? 
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10-29-2015, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: IN
Posts: 254
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I agree with you choosing to go to a 4 place. I'm nearing 64 and am just now finishing up a switch back to a 2 place. My wife and I started 45 years ago with 2 place planes switching to 4 place as raised our kids; a 4 place which we used extensively for hundreds of family trips, creating memories that we all cherish as adults. Although I flew the 4 Mooney's we owned mostly solo or with one passenger it was worth ever penny for those memories we created as a family.
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10-29-2015, 06:53 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Garden City Texas
Posts: 878
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Sell THAT plane! Have you lost your mind?  .....Go buy a 182 and use for a few years. Trust me, it wont be long until your back down to just needing two seats!...Then your gonna wish you had it back!
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10-29-2015, 08:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 391
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Great work, Mom & Dad
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Originally Posted by NavyS3BNFO
Hear, Hear!
Exactly what I was thinking.
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You can get other vehicles, but you'll never raise that son again... and you did very well.
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10-30-2015, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton, Nevada --- A34
Posts: 1,464
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What's the problem?
Nice video! But, I can't understand the thought of selling the plane for a four-seater. (It looks like you have a family of five?) if you want only four seats, buy another 2-seater. You could pick up a nice -4 or -6 and train a new pilot for less than the cost of a -10 (albeit, probably not less than a worn Skyhawks). If the spouse won't help out, rent for a couple of years until the 14 year old is ready to become PIC. Your plane is obviously a valued family member and disposing of it should not be taken lightly!
Oh yeah.....you might also need to move to an airpark where having hangar space for two planes doesn't cost anything. 
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Last edited by Louise Hose : 10-30-2015 at 10:52 AM.
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10-30-2015, 08:36 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTurner
The key is useage. How often will it fly? To use your examples, if you had a vacation home you only used 4 times a year, you would rent, not own. And if you only did your laundry 4 times a year you wouldn't own a washer!
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Yes, I would agree with your statement if the only thing to consider were the dollars you would pull out of your wallet to pay the gate keeper to enter the game. However, as I stated in my post, there are other positives besides monetary that could tip toward owning vs renting. Just as there are other positives of owning a washer/dryer vs laundry mat ( i.e. using the washer just after a roughneck ran his work coveralls through it).
The point of my post was to say that there are other motivations to consider that do not have to do with money. If one were to include those then perhaps owning would be better than renting in the long run.
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