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10-21-2015, 11:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: santa rosa
Posts: 68
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Hi all: Couple of comments: When us local guys started out on this wild flying RV stuff 30 years ago, we and our close friends/family who flew with us were the only ones with skin in the game. Spectacular experience in cheap, awesome planes (some of my steam gauges still in my panel came from wrecks in 1985). Things changed when pilots commonly bought their planes and did not build them: lots of money chasing performance. Then, along come the -10 and the Lancair 4, and there are people at risk who a jury is likely to think expected the plane to have the same safety as a certificated plane (notwithstanding the sticker). I mention this because my view is that the perspective that is important is not the RV community (which we all probably can reach some rough agreement about...!), but the jury pool perspective. If some nut (me?) kills himself in a plane he built, BFD. If the same guy kills a 4 year old...in a kid seat...My view is this is a when, not if, situation....at some point, 8-12 people in a box are going to hit somebody...I am a defense lawyer; I have a 1986 -4 I built and continue to fly; I don't like it; and I am highly confident it will happen....and the walls may well come tumbling down.
Hi to Vic Syracuse! I remember your shiny -4 in 84-85....I still have my 86 N95JF and still based at STS. Best, John
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10-22-2015, 03:10 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: North Vancouver, BC
Posts: 117
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Floscan 201vs. 231
I looked at the pictures - shouldn't the larger Floscan 231 be used with a carb / gravity fuel flow system? And steel AN fittings not aluminum? Don
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10-22-2015, 05:45 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Locust Grove, GA
Posts: 2,627
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Hello, John
Good for you! Sure is some pretty flying out there in Santa Rosa!
Vic
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10-24-2015, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Fort Vermilion AB
Posts: 8
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How to fight back at frivolous lawsuits.
I am watching this case, I don't know if it is the first case against our "industry" but it is the first that has got my attention.
I agree playing the blame game is unproductive (who among us has not sinned)
The public thinks that "certified" are inherently safer as "theoretically" the construction and maintenance is done by qualified people.
When there were only a few of us scratchbuilders we didn't attract the attention but with the proliferation of kit builts and the companies that produce them becoming more litigiously attractive, it was inevitable.
We are under attack.
So how do we fight to protect our industry.
I have a suggestion.
Start a gofundme.com.
There are 20k people following this website, if half of them give $10 that is $100k. Make it available to Vans and Floscan.
This affects all of us no matter the type of build we do. Spread the word.
Maybe the alphabets could pick up the ball.
Let the legal community know we will fight vigorously to protect our right to fly.
Let them know from this day forward,,,if you are going to take a run at us you better have deep pockets.
Works for the NRA.
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10-24-2015, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
Posts: 353
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Holy small world ... Being new around here, I just discovered this thread ... I knew Doug many moons ago, when I worked in the geospatial field, which he was also a part of. Super nice guy.
I also kept hearing of this whole "RTV in the fuel system kills people", and now I discover it actually killed someone I knew ...
So sad ... regardless of where lies the fault.
Was a little distressed to see the law suit, but no laws were broken by any one that I can tell ... ?
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03-03-2016, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Centreville VA
Posts: 6
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Update?
So I know that legal battles take a long time, but it's been almost 5 months since there has been anything in the news on this. Does anyone know if there has been a resolution yet?
Last edited by dcastor : 03-03-2016 at 06:08 PM.
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