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10-18-2015, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McAlpin, FL
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This seems like a good place for a stick-up! Or a query...
While on the subject of alternators, I have an issue, and hope you guys can help. Let's say a 'friend' has this plane... Anyway, the front alternator mounting hole on the engine case is ruined. I,,, I mean my friend, didn't notice it on the pre-buy exam. Can an alternator be mounted safely using the remaining 3 holes? The plane currently has a pad mounted low-power SD-8. So, if necessary, that can swapped for an SD-20.
Thanks, and you guys rock!
Lance
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McAlpin, FL
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Scratchbuilt Biplane
Preceptor N3 - Sold
Zenith Zodiac 601HD - Sold (good riddance)
Kitfox IV - Sold my share, but loved that plane
RV8A Sold! Loved the plane, but not the nosewheel!
RVX (RV6/4) Sold
Cherokee 180 pickup truck
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10-18-2015, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Reno, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluelabel
How do you measure? What tool and how?
Thanks,
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Lycoming SI 1129D (07/23/15) talks you through the three applicable methods of checking belt tension.
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10-18-2015, 11:49 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Largo, FL
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Lance, if the SD-8
is currently doing the job, and you just want a few more electrons, the SD-20 is and easier solution --- I installed one as a "standby" and it is pretty straightforward.
Ron
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10-18-2015, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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Are you talking about the forward of the two holes that attach the saddle bracket to the case on a flat pad surface?
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10-18-2015, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McAlpin, FL
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4 holes!
The mounting pad for the bracket has 4 holes in a line. The hole farthest forward is ruined. So, just the three are useable.
Thanks, Lance
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Lance Logan
McAlpin, FL
Plane at FL10
Scratchbuilt Biplane
Preceptor N3 - Sold
Zenith Zodiac 601HD - Sold (good riddance)
Kitfox IV - Sold my share, but loved that plane
RV8A Sold! Loved the plane, but not the nosewheel!
RVX (RV6/4) Sold
Cherokee 180 pickup truck
RV8 Fastback
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10-18-2015, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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4? Hmm. They're typically mounted with 2 bolts. Parts catalog calls for STD 1838 bolts, quantity two.
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10-18-2015, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerhed
4? Hmm. They're typically mounted with 2 bolts. Parts catalog calls for STD 1838 bolts, quantity two.
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Are helicoils approved for repair? Any special profile on the shoulders of the drill bit?
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Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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10-18-2015, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluelabel
How do you measure? What tool and how?
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Those values are the torque on the alternator pulley that will cause the belt to slip on the pulley. Find a socket that fits on the big nut that secures the pulley, and put your torque wrench on it.
For a new belt, set a click type torque wrench to 11 ft-lb (132 in-lb), and it should click without the belt slipping. Then set the wrench to 13 ft-lb (156 in-lb) and the pulley should start to slip on the belt before the wrench clicks. If you have a beam type torque wrench, the belt should start to slip when the torque is between 11 and 13 ft-lb. Adjust the tension as required until it passes the above test.
For a used belt, replace the above values with 7 and 9 ft-lb (84 and 108 in-lb).
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10-18-2015, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Originally Posted by Gary 40274
Do we have any consensus about what fails. It would be nice to know wether it is diodes or bearings or insulation of the windings that fails. Inquiring minds want to know
Gary Specketer
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No yet. My PP alternator will be dropped off at a local "rebuilder" and I hope he can give me some answers.
It doesn't feel like the bearings went bad as it spins as easily as the Suzuki alternator I bought, that may or may not go in the plane.
There is a lot of black dust on it, so it might simply be the brushes, or the diodes, or the ...
I'll post when I know more.
Bill L., I received your email and will try to get all the details on make, model, size, etc. as well.
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10-18-2015, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerhed
4? Hmm. They're typically mounted with 2 bolts. Parts catalog calls for STD 1838 bolts, quantity two.
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It depends on who's bracket you are using. The milled (?) aluminum bracket from Van's uses all four holes and the U shaped steal bracket from PP uses the front two.
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
Last edited by N941WR : 10-18-2015 at 04:32 PM.
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