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10-02-2015, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Discovery Bay, CA
Posts: 183
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Originally Posted by Russ McCutcheon
I?m not sure how much the canopy frame would help you, I suspect what did help you the most is the actual roll bar, on a slider it?s in front of your head so on a nose over your head is up hill from the roll bar and the ground, on a tipper the roll bar is behind your head so in a nose over in a tipper it?s going to crush everything on a straight line between the top of the cowl and the roll bar. At the very least I think you will have more room to maneuver inside the plane after this kind of event in the slider verses the tipper.
I hate seeing these kind of photos, very happy you guys are ok!
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Have to agree Russ. I guess I am thankful for our outcome and was able to walk away so I am just glad on what I had to protect us. Very true that the drawing a line from the vertical stabilizer to the spinner would be the most accurate since the vertical stab is the highest point. The canopy frame was bent, but likely because if you draw this line, it was in the same path. I am sure the tip up model is safe as well as it just depends on the scenario of events. Luckily I was able to keep the front gear up for quite some time and slow the plane down prior to the flip over.
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10-02-2015, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Edgewater, FL. KSFB
Posts: 1,116
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I too am glad you two came out OK. For me the best part is that you are able to tell the story after the fact. Many of us think how easy it would be to land with an engine out but there have been many accidents that did not involve a debrief afterwards. Many seemingly simple engine outs progress into stalls with no after event stories from the pilot or passengers. Kudos to you Bryon and I hope my future possible event comes out as well.
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10-02-2015, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,456
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Please keep us posted as to the causal findings of the investigation. I am glad you are ok.
When I was flying RC and there was a crash of somebody's beloved airplane, the common wisdom was to bring the wreck home and not look at it for several days, so the emotion could eb away (meaning so you would not scream and yell and jump on it!). Then one could make an objective assessment of the work required. I think so much of the time involved in building an airplane is scratching your head, trying to figure stuff out, that a repair should take quite a bit less time than a build. You already know where all the hoses and wires go. You just have to replace the bent stuff and put them all back. I hope you do because its a nice airplane.
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Scott Black
Old school simple VFR RV 4, O-320, wood prop, MGL iEfis Lite
VAF dues 2020
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10-02-2015, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 113
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Really happy you guys were able to walk away safely. I can only think that your experience in your plane really helped you have the best outcome you could.
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Cyrus Hogg
RV-6
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10-02-2015, 11:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Carlsbad
Posts: 41
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Anti-Splat?
I couldn't find that you had mentioned this elsewhere in the thread. Is there an anti-splat on that nose strut? Interesting either way.
Dave
RV6a
OKB
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10-02-2015, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Discovery Bay, CA
Posts: 183
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Originally Posted by Dave H.
I couldn't find that you had mentioned this elsewhere in the thread. Is there an anti-splat on that nose strut? Interesting either way.
Dave
RV6a
OKB
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Dave, My front nose wheel was updated per the SB 07-11-09 nose gear service bulletin from Van's however I did not have an anti-splat on the nose strut. The field I ended up landing in consisted of 12" deep very soft mud under the short alfalfa crop, so I am not sure how much it would have prevented a tip over. I will say that my rebuild will consist of installing the anti-splat on my airplane.
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10-03-2015, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,456
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Originally Posted by luv2flypilot
Ryan, As far as opening the canopy as part of my scenarios I think through periodically, I remember an EAA meeting we had a few years back when an emergency coast guard rescue member indicated that it would be a good idea for a water landing.
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If you look at the recent video of a 7 dead stick landing near a beach in Europe, following an airshow mid-air, as soon as the gear hit the water and the AC decelerated, the canopy slamed shut.
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Old school simple VFR RV 4, O-320, wood prop, MGL iEfis Lite
VAF dues 2020
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10-03-2015, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,452
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Nice
Glad the outcome was what it was. Nice.
Didnt happen to have the go pro filming did you??
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Rick Woodall C-GSTT "ghost"
9a -TMX io-320, catto three blade, dual dynon hdx with a/p. 900+ hrs in 8 yrs flying.
Flew to Osh 11,12,15,17,19. SNF 2013. West to Cali /Washington/Vancouver/crossed the Rockies north to Red Deer east to Moosonee and over to maritimes. South to Jekyll Isl, cedar key, and Key West etc. 6 trips and 17 islands of the Bahamas. Flown turtles and dogs for Pilots n Paws too. Love our Rv's
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10-03-2015, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 877
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Battery Switch
I'm curious why you have something that looks like a marine battery switch on your firewall? Can you tell us what this is for?
Skylor
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10-03-2015, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sblack
If you look at the recent video of a 7 dead stick landing near a beach in Europe, following an airshow mid-air, as soon as the gear hit the water and the AC decelerated, the canopy slamed shut.
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One recommendation from the Grumman pilots is to stick your headset over the canopy track just before a crash landing so the canopy sliding forward won't jam in a stuck closed position.
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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