IFR

[bhassel]

I understand that there have been at least several folks thinking about the possibility of having an IFR panel. While I don't plan on flying IFR weather in the 12, I do want to become a better pilot and getting my IFR ticket is one way to do that and something I'd like to do.

I sent an email to Stein about what would it take to get there in a 12 (after the pink slip of course). I really want to go with a Dynon Skyview system.

The cheap route is a Nav/Com swapped for the Com. No worries about power. Or just add a NavCom (power issues) and a switch to swap the radios into the intercom. I may a little confused here. The expensive direction is a Garmin certified GPS 650/625 (not counting used equipment) and again power issues.

What are those of you who are considering this route doing?

Thanks,

Bob

[Ex Bonanza Bucko]

I think if the RV12 is flown as an LSA you can't fly it in IFR or at night.
EBB

[Mel]

Originally Posted by Ex Bonanza Bucko

I think if the RV12 is flown as an LSA you can't fly it in IFR or at night.
EBB

That would be a sport pilot restriction, not an aircraft restriction.

If the pilot is qualified, has a current medical, and the aircraft meets 91.205, all is fine.

[BobTurner]

Please clarify: Do you want to be able to train for and get your ifr rating, all the while flying under the hood in vfr conditions? Or do you want to fly in IMC?
If the latter:
1. IMHO You need a backup EFIS (or round gauges) that runs off an independent battery.
2. You'll want MBs and a second VOR, although one SL-30, with its two VOR capability, would work. You'll be shut out of all the gps-only airports, and the 'ADF required' ILSs, but it's a good start.

If you just want the rating, add an SL30, find an airport with an ILS that uses a VOR cross fix for the FAF, and train in vfr.

[N941WR]

You can legally install a Sporty's SP-400 Handlheld Nav/Com to train with and to fly IFR with, if you make the appropriate log entries.

[Bill_H]

See this thread on equipping an RV12 for IFR.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=122599

[rsipp]

Probably a minor detail but Rotax in their documentation restricts the engine to VFR flight conditions only.
Dick Sipp
RV4 sold
RV10 sold
RV12

[jpowell13]

I just installed this used marker beacon receiver to establish OM/FAF for ILS's in case of GPS failure. You can easily do the same for less than $500. The antenna can go in the wingtip. Wiring is easy. John

[12vaitor]

I built mine mainly for IFR training and to deal with the occasional pop-up IFR situation. Panel space is tight on the -12, here is what I have: complete Skyview setup (incl ARINC-429), Avidyne IFD-540 WAAS GPS/Comm, GTR-200, PM3000 + 3 position switch for COM1, COM2, NAV, and panel space for iPad-mini mount or SV-D700. This is a one piece panel and I ended up with a custom radio rack mounting bracket. I also installed a dual battery, triple buss electrical system. Other pains were adding three more antennas and a heated pitot on the wing.

If I were doing it again today, a GTN-650 and PMA450 Audio Panel would be a good alternative to the IFD-540 and PM3000 with 3-way Comm switch.

John Salak
RV-12 120116/N896HS
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[bhassel]

Originally Posted by BobTurner

Please clarify: Do you want to be able to train for and get your ifr rating, all the while flying under the hood in vfr conditions? Or do you want to fly in IMC?
If the latter:
1. IMHO You need a backup EFIS (or round gauges) that runs off an independent battery.
2. You'll want MBs and a second VOR, although one SL-30, with its two VOR capability, would work. You'll be shut out of all the gps-only airports, and the 'ADF required' ILSs, but it's a good start.

If you just want the rating, add an SL30, find an airport with an ILS that uses a VOR cross fix for the FAF, and train in vfr.

I would like to get my IFR rating. I'm not looking to go into serious weather in an LSA. It would be nice to get on top in the mid-west or above the marine layer on the coast.

Bob