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Old 09-09-2015, 03:24 PM
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I don't mean to derail this thread, but why do you have to enter your N number to get Av Fuel? I don't enter my license plate number to fill up my car. I may or may not just enter the easiest/shortest combo I can think of rather than my real N number.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:35 PM
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I don't mean to derail this thread, but why do you have to enter your N number to get Av Fuel? I don't enter my license plate number to fill up my car. I may or may not just enter the easiest/shortest combo I can think of rather than my real N number.
I think it is for traceability purposes in case a fuel farm sample indicates possible contamination or the wrong type of fuel was accidentally put in the tanks. If they don't know who bought fuel then they have no idea of who to contact if a problem is found.
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:29 PM
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I think it is for traceability purposes in case a fuel farm sample indicates possible contamination or the wrong type of fuel was accidentally put in the tanks. If they don't know who bought fuel then they have no idea of who to contact if a problem is found.
Bingo. Think back several years ago when Chevron had their fuel mix up. That is (in part) how they determined who was eligible for compensation. There was more to it than that but having a receipt with a tail number was huge.
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I don't mean to derail this thread, but why do you have to enter your N number to get Av Fuel? I don't enter my license plate number to fill up my car. I may or may not just enter the easiest/shortest combo I can think of rather than my real N number.
I'd like to know why aircraft registrations are publicly accessible. I can't just go online and look up license plates; why should someone be able to look up my N number?
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Bingo. Think back several years ago when Chevron had their fuel mix up. That is (in part) how they determined who was eligible for compensation. There was more to it than that but having a receipt with a tail number was huge.
I would think the credit card records would give them the required information for compensation. If you are a transit, you will know before the oil company does, unfortunately.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:39 AM
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I'd like to know why aircraft registrations are publicly accessible. I can't just go online and look up license plates; why should someone be able to look up my N number?
I totally agree with this. I can't believe that the FAA still publishes personal information like this (particularly the home address).
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I totally agree with this. I can't believe that the FAA still publishes personal information like this (particularly the home address).
It's the same for Amateur Radio licenses, and probably other Federal licensing databases as well. There's a big difference between public information and personal information. Stuff like my address and phone number is really public information. It's been in the phone book for decades, and for sale from various mailing list companies for even longer. I really don't care if they publish that. Personal information is a different story - SSN, account numbers, that sort of thing.

Back on topic for a moment, another piece of advice I would give a newbie is to join your local EAA chapter, go to meetings, get to know other builders and people who have completed homebuilts. Go to Oshkosh and spend a couple of days wandering through the RVs there. Try to get regular doses of inspiration by looking closely at other peoples' projects. Sometimes they will have done things you like, sometimes they will have done things you want to avoid. Every plane I look at is an inspiration -- one way or the other.
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It's the same for Amateur Radio licenses, and probably other Federal licensing databases as well. There's a big difference between public information and personal information. Stuff like my address and phone number is really public information. It's been in the phone book for decades, and for sale from various mailing list companies for even longer. I really don't care if they publish that. Personal information is a different story - SSN, account numbers, that sort of thing.
I know this is a thread hijack, but...

You could "opt out" of the phone book (which is a private company) via unpublished or unlisted numbers. Mailing lists? Don't sign up in the first place (I know that's super-hard to avoid nowadays when even the grocery store has you home address).

But tying your N-number to your name and address and then making it available on-line is *exactly* the same as what the DMV does NOT do (publishing names and addresses of license plate holders). Know *why* they don't do that anymore? Because some nutjob got an actress' home address from DMV and killed her. (Not to mention that it allowed all sorts of other mischief, such as estranged spouses and abusive partners to find people).

I just don't think FAA (or other agencies) should be doing this. We've been lucky, as far as we know, so far.
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