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Old 09-09-2015, 10:41 AM
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Just for the heck of it------------------gonna ask once again.

Anybody have one of these critters in their hands?????

Or, are they still looking for the unobtainium mine ....................

C'mon Mike, they promised delivery at Oshkosh. They just didn't tell you which Oshkosh it would be.
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Old 09-09-2015, 10:58 AM
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From their website:

"Note 9/5/15: Our hopes for a summer release were not met. At this point we are shooting for first deliveries in October. We regret any inconvenience for the delays."
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:17 AM
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From their website:

"Note 9/5/15: Our hopes for a summer release were not met. At this point we are shooting for first deliveries in October. We regret any inconvenience for the delays."
Yeah-------------saw that.

But I find the information here to be a lot more reliable.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:59 PM
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Not that I have a need for these, I just wonder why, when they know that they've had huge problems getting these things ready for deliveries, do they even state a "we hope to have them ready" time frame at all. Simply say they're working on it and hope to have them "soon". That way they never fail!

Not putting Brad down though. He treated me VERY well with my 4 cyl models. I'd imagine they'll be worth the wait.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:43 PM
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Maybe they are trying to avoid years of failures with the 6 Cyl like they did (and do) with the 4 Cyl.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:28 PM
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It was explained to me that the gear ratio of the six cylinder mag is not conducive to the P-Mag concept. The alternator can do its job, but the 4 cylinder turns one to one with the crank, the six turns 1.5 to 1, or something of that nature. Basically it has to be geared down, or compensated for with software... but that makes the timing more of an issue. Basically, crank trigger pickups are the way to go for the Sixes.

I think EFII was playing with the idea of running a small alternator off a mag hole, but I'd imagine so few people are still running vacuum pumps, that this becomes irrelevant. Backup Alternator+EFII+Bus Manager>2 P-mags for a new installation. Retrofitting I don't even want to think about
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:55 AM
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Maybe they are trying to avoid years of failures with the 6 Cyl like they did (and do) with the 4 Cyl.
That and they want to make sure the physical packaging will work with both Lycoming and Continental engines.

The ignition itself is functional and when I last spoke to them on the issue, they were sourcing the manufacturer of the various components.
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:08 AM
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It was explained to me that the gear ratio of the six cylinder mag is not conducive to the P-Mag concept. The alternator can do its job, but the 4 cylinder turns one to one with the crank, the six turns 1.5 to 1, or something of that nature. Basically it has to be geared down, or compensated for with software... but that makes the timing more of an issue. Basically, crank trigger pickups are the way to go for the Sixes...
I have no direct insight into what's going on behind the month to month slip in delivery, but the fact that they have been flying several of these for years and the fact they are making metal chips on the production floor tells me they have solved the major technical hurdles you have illustrated above. The six is more of a challenge than the four, yes, but they would have to know if that was insurmountable a LONG time ago. I suspect that these late delivery issues are supplier related or something to do with their plans for FAA certification on Lycoming and Continental engines with one basic unit.

I'm not happy about waiting this long, but they really are shooting for the moon with this product. I can cut them some slack.
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Old 11-03-2015, 05:20 PM
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Well, it has been just shy of two months since the last time I last asked ..............

Maybe by Christmas????
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Old 11-03-2015, 05:31 PM
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I talked to Brad e other day and he said he had a few production units going out for testing last week or the week before. People think they've been waiting a long time for the Navworx box. I've been waiting for e 6-cyl P-Mag since 2005
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