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Old 08-27-2015, 06:27 PM
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Default Halon extinguishers

Not by our airplane right now....want to buy a Halon fire extinguisher to put between the pilot and co-pilot seats on the forward slanting column under the throttle/choke controls. Anyone have the dimensions of that section?

These are my choices for Halon 1211 extinguishers

http://www.amerexfireextinguishers.c...ct_Catalog.pdf

scroll down to Halon 1211 either the A344T which is 10" high or the C352TS which is 14 3/8 high

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Old 08-27-2015, 07:10 PM
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Not by my plane either, but I believe I ordered this one from AircraftSpruce for just over $100. Small, under 2 lbs.

H3R FIRE EXTINGUISHER MODEL A344T

Installed nut plates on the F-1230 tunnel cover. (Cut holes in the carpet for the screws to mount the bracket). Very accessible for pilot and passenger.
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Old 08-27-2015, 08:25 PM
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Talking Halon Extinguishers

The good news is....if you install one of these, you'll never have a fire!
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Old 08-27-2015, 08:35 PM
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The good news is....if you install one of these, you'll never have a fire!
And if you do, you will discover that the extinguisher has leaked down to nothing. These things do leak down over time. Be sure to check them regularly.
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:02 PM
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And if you do, you will discover that the extinguisher has leaked down to nothing. These things do leak down over time. Be sure to check them regularly.
That's the corollary to the theory that flashlights are just containers for dead dry cells.
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:12 AM
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Default My RV-4 Extinguisher

Here's the one I put in my RV-4 - http://amzn.com/B001KAO63G. The chrome version cost an extra $10 but I think it's a nice touch. The cockpit photo is looking straight down over the front seat. I know it looks like the handle might be in the way but it's not. It's well clear of the passenger's left foot and below my left forearm. Easy access for me and doable from the backseat too.




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Old 08-29-2015, 01:02 PM
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Use Halon in a ventilated area. Your cockpit is a small confined space and will fill rapidly. Nothing really wrong with its use just open your fresh air vents.


What is Halon?
Halon (short for halogenated hydrocarbon) is a liquefied gas that is used to extinguish fire by chemically interrupting the combustion chain reaction. It is nonconducting and described as a "clean agent," as it leaves no residue after being discharged. Halon fire extinguishing agents, approved for use by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), include Halon 1211, Halon 1301, and a combination of the two (Halon 1211/1301). The four-digit number represents, respectively, the number of carbon, fluorine, chlorine, and bromine atoms present in one molecule. (Reference 1)

Both Halon 1211 and 1301 have Class A, B, and C ratings and have relatively low toxicity and electrical conductivity, making them the agents of choice for extinguishing the type of fires most prevalent in aircraft. Halon 1211 is a "streaming agent," and more commonly used in hand-held extinguishers because it discharges mostly as a liquid stream.

Halon 1301 is a "flooding agent," and discharges mostly as a gas, allowing it to penetrate tight spaces and behind obstacles and baffles. This property makes it ideal for use in engine nacelles and other tightly enclosed spaces commonly found in aircraft.

The Trouble with Halon
Halons have been found to be an ozone-depleting substance, harmful to the Earth's stratospheric ozone layer, and have an unacceptable "global warming potential." As of January 1, 1994, under the Clean Air Act, the United States has banned the production and import of Halons 1211 and 1301 in compliance with the Montreal Protocol On Substances That Deplete The Ozone Layer. (Reference 2)


Ozone depleting substance[edit]
The production of bromochlorodifluoromethane and similar chlorofluorocarbons has been banned in most countries since January 1, 1994 as part of the Montreal Protocol on ozone depleting substances. However, recycling of halon 1211 allows it to remain in use, although parts availability is limited to a few manufacturers and can be an issue. Halon 1211 is still widely used in the United States, despite its high cost, with the US Military being the biggest user, but Europe and Australia have banned its use for all but "critical applications" such as aviation, military, and police use.
The manufacture of UL Listed halon 1211 extinguishers was supposed to cease on October, 2009. The future listing is still in discussion. Halotron I is the replacement extinguishing agent. It takes a larger volume to get the same ratings as 1211 has.
This is a volatile extinguishing agent that should be used only with a breathing apparatus.
Abuse as an inhalant[edit]
Inhalation of bromochlorodifluoromethane and certain other fluorocarbon compounds can cause cardiac muscle sensitization to circulating epinephrine-like compounds, of which can cause an "adrenaline rush"
. In Australia, a Gold Coast teenager died after inhaling the contents of a yellow BCF fire extinguisher at a Southport park at about 11pm on April 7, 1994 where he and two others discharged the extinguisher, inhaling the gas. The news story also stated that six yellow BCF extinguishers were stolen from a nearby shopping centre four days earlier, which indicated it was not an isolated incident. A warning on a yellow BCF extinguisher highlighted in the news story stated that "[t]he fumes given off are liable to be dangerous, especially in a confined space."

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Old 08-29-2015, 01:49 PM
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Default I'm with Mel

At well over $100.00, ours leaked down over less than 3yrs ---- would not of known it (no gauge), if it had not "felt" light. Weighed it on my wife's weight-watcher scale ---- empty.

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