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08-19-2015, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
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There is no thermostat, either in the liquid coolant cycle or the oil cycle. Some add one to the oil cycle (for faster winter warmup), search this RV-12 forum for "thermostasis"
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08-19-2015, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
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Dexcool
As previous posters have mentioned, Rotax now recommends anti-freeze and water.
Specifically, anti-freeze that is labeled "Dexcool", run as a 50/50 mix with distilled water (do NOT use tap water). The mix can be up to 60/40 water/Dexcool.
Water has a higher heat capacity than anti-freeze.
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08-25-2015, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Olympia WA
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dex-cool going in
I drained the Evans waterless coolant, and am filling with Dex-Cool coolant.
I will report back with temperature measurements, hopefully they drop by 20+ degrees.
Tom O.
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08-25-2015, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 426
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Switch from Evans coolant
Hmm...maybe this is addressed somewhere else, I haven't looked, but since it's being discussed here and now, here goes...
If Evan's and water are totally incompatible, how do you drain and flush out the very last bit of Evan's coolant before you refill with Water/Dexcool?
Is it an issue? If not...cool (sorry)
If it is, will someone please describe or refer to the procedure to minimize the possibility of someone else doing damage.
(On behalf of someone who may benefit) Thanks!
Dave (Proudly overthinking problems and solutions since 1951) Welch
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08-25-2015, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Shingle Springs, CA
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Dave,
It's not important when going in that direction (back to glycol), just flush it out with a little water and you're good to go. Add the 50/50 glycol.
The reason you can't have any water in with the Evans is because it runs so hot you're likely to boil any water mixed in with and create cooling voids because the water will turn to steam. The directions on Evans is very clear that if you have been running any water you must flush the system with a product that they make just for that purpose. The flushing product absorbs any water in the system and then you dispose of it before adding Evans.
So to sum it up. A little Evans in the glycol coolant - no problem. A little water in the Evans coolant - big problem.
Bill
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08-25-2015, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveWelch
Hmm...maybe this is addressed somewhere else, I haven't looked, but since it's being discussed here and now, here goes...
If Evan's and water are totally incompatible, how do you drain and flush out the very last bit of Evan's coolant before you refill with Water/Dexcool?
Is it an issue? If not...cool (sorry)
If it is, will someone please describe or refer to the procedure to minimize the possibility of someone else doing damage.
(On behalf of someone who may benefit) Thanks!
Dave (Proudly overthinking problems and solutions since 1951) Welch
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Like BajaPilot says - flush with water - - but always use distilled water in cooling systems where aluminum is present (basically all).
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and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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08-25-2015, 07:58 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
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No worries then
Thanks Bill, makes perfect sense.
I'd misunderstood the "totally incompatible" statement to mean that the Evan's coolant and water are not mutually soluble.
Whew...another non-issue safely avoided!
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RV12 N951DZ
First Flight 9/23/16!
No paint yet. Working on a scheme with John Deere colors or accents.
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08-25-2015, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Olympia WA
Posts: 173
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cooler temps
I flew the plane today with the dex-cool ethylene glycol coolant, 50-50 mix with distilled water. the temps were about 30 deg cooler than with evans waterless coolant. And for the first time, the CHT's were cooler than the oil temp. my CHT's in a climb were around 205, and then in level flight around 195. Conditions were 75 deg OAT, 5400 rpm.
I'm happy.
Tom O.
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08-26-2015, 05:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Olympia WA
Posts: 173
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Originally Posted by DaveWelch View Post
If Evan's and water are totally incompatible, how do you drain and flush out the very last bit of Evan's coolant before you refill with Water/Dexcool?
Dave;
Evans says you can have up to 3.6% water mixed in.
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