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Old 08-22-2015, 08:53 PM
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:10 PM
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Rick - please report to Vans and ask what number flying RV12 you are. Also, what's your kit S/N?
Bill, this is kit S/N 120805. I order the empennage mid-November 2013 and started work on it the first week of December 2013.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:42 PM
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I'm inspired even more to get my -12 completed. Congratulations!
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:14 AM
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Congrats on the build and first flight Eick.
How does flying it feel compared to the 7?
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:18 PM
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Congrats Rick. Mine is 120806 and I just ordered the engine and avionics. Hoping to be done in 6-8 weeks. So excited!
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:23 PM
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How does flying it feel compared to the 7?
The biggest difference is low speed handing, sink rate,float before landing and use of trim.

In the 7, the controls start to feel heavy below about 100 - 110 kts. For the 12, this is the normal cruising range and the controls are light and responsive. At 65 - 75 kts the 12 still handles very well, but you really have to keep the plane in trim.

During my initial training I had a tendency to not trim enough because on the 7, I didn't like having elevator forces too light. On the 12, you really need to keep the stick light. Thus using more trim, more often.

The 12 does not have as quick a roll rate but it is still very responsive.

Getting the 12 down to a maximum of 65 kts on Final is a must. During my solo flight, I aiming to keep the speed between 55 and 60 over the fence. Much faster and the 12 will float a long way.
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Old 08-23-2015, 05:15 PM
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Getting the 12 down to a maximum of 65 kts on Final is a must. During my solo flight, I aiming to keep the speed between 55 and 60 over the fence. Much faster and the 12 will float a long way.
Once you have more experience you should be even slower...

Crossing the threshold with full flaps at anything over 50 kts is too fast.

Remember, to qualify as a light sport airplane the RV-12 has a no flap stall speed, at gross weight, of 45 Kts. At solo weights with full flaps the stall speed is getting down in the neighborhood of 35 Kts. If you cross the fence at 60 Kts you would be almost double the stall speed.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:12 PM
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congratulations, on the first flight...hope to start my emp the second wk on Oct.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:37 PM
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Compared to my previous 160 hp RV-9A the 12 is very similar in roll and stick forces. I did have to get used to the solo approach. Similar to a fixed pitch 9 fully loaded with a 60 kts approach but solo at 60 kts and you will float a couple of thousand feet. Using about 55 kts approach, full flaps and no power works well for me solo. Access, visibility and economy is a plus for the 12. Higher speed, climb rate and more baggage is a plus for the 9.
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Old 08-27-2015, 08:26 AM
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The biggest difference is low speed handing, sink rate,float before landing and use of trim.

In the 7, the controls start to feel heavy below about 100 - 110 kts. For the 12, this is the normal cruising range and the controls are light and responsive. At 65 - 75 kts the 12 still handles very well, but you really have to keep the plane in trim.

During my initial training I had a tendency to not trim enough because on the 7, I didn't like having elevator forces too light. On the 12, you really need to keep the stick light. Thus using more trim, more often.

The 12 does not have as quick a roll rate but it is still very responsive.

Getting the 12 down to a maximum of 65 kts on Final is a must. During my solo flight, I aiming to keep the speed between 55 and 60 over the fence. Much faster and the 12 will float a long way.
Thanks for the flight report Rick.
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