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Forum: Painting your RV 08-10-2022, 03:43 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 587
Posted By Bandera
I usually do my invasion stripes 7 inches. I also...

I usually do my invasion stripes 7 inches. I also only want them on the flaps.
Forum: Painting your RV 08-06-2022, 05:50 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,862
Posted By Bandera
You might need a little more reducer in your...

You might need a little more reducer in your paint and a little more air. Whatís your current setup ?
Forum: Painting your RV 08-06-2022, 03:28 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,512
Posted By Bandera
You know, that happens a lot.

You know, that happens a lot.
Forum: Painting your RV 08-05-2022, 08:27 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 522
Posted By Bandera
Correct. The etch is a cleaner and is used to...

Correct. The etch is a cleaner and is used to prep the aluminum for the alodine step.

Funny/sad story about self etching primer. Back in the early 70ís Cessna and Piper were using self etching...
Forum: Painting your RV 08-04-2022, 07:26 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 522
Posted By Bandera
I would say dipping would be easiest and fastest...

I would say dipping would be easiest and fastest with less chance of getting any on you. For rinsing, you could dip in a container of clean water. Only needs to a container big enough for your part....
Forum: Painting your RV 08-03-2022, 04:12 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,996
Posted By Bandera
-Water/ oil filter make/model???...

-Water/ oil filter make/model??? https://www.amazon.com/Devilbiss-803643-Filter-Cleaner-Regulator/dp/B00DGTOIEQ

-Air hose (new)...
Forum: Painting your RV 08-01-2022, 05:53 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 679
Posted By Bandera
In the bulk strippers that I can buy now,...

In the bulk strippers that I can buy now, methylene chloride is unobtainium. It the good stuff though. Everything that I can buy is hydrogen peroxide based. It works ok as long as the weather is...
Forum: Painting your RV 08-01-2022, 04:35 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 679
Posted By Bandera
After you strip make sure that you wash the area...

After you strip make sure that you wash the area that you stripped with soap and water very well. Donít let it sit for days before you wash. Get it clean as soon as youíre done stripping.
Forum: Painting your RV 07-29-2022, 11:33 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,512
Posted By Bandera
Itís the only story I have today. After driving...

Itís the only story I have today. After driving back from Oshkosh my brain is only at 50%.:)
Forum: Painting your RV 07-29-2022, 10:13 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,512
Posted By Bandera
I had a customer bring an RV-8 in pieces one...

I had a customer bring an RV-8 in pieces one time. I asked him if he wanted to fly it first then paint and he replied ďno, I built it correctlyĒ. This wasnít his first rodeo so I believed him and...
Forum: Painting your RV 07-28-2022, 10:23 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,512
Posted By Bandera
Iíve done it both ways. IMHO the best way is to...

Iíve done it both ways. IMHO the best way is to fly first then paint. You want to make sure there are no issues with the plane. Once all your bugs are worked out then think about paint. Also, nothing...
Forum: Painting your RV 07-15-2022, 03:48 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,158
Posted By Bandera
I use a glaze called Nitro-Stan. Itís a lacquer...

I use a glaze called Nitro-Stan. Itís a lacquer based red putty. The smaller the spot the better. If you need to fill something, use body filler or a 2 part glaze like Evercoat 417. The red putty is...
Forum: Midwest 07-11-2022, 05:40 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 5,921
Posted By Bandera
Find me walking around and Iíll shake your...

Find me walking around and Iíll shake your hand.

:D
Forum: Painting your RV 07-11-2022, 05:20 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,996
Posted By Bandera
When Meta-Flex SP-1050 (exact same as PreKote)...

When Meta-Flex SP-1050 (exact same as PreKote) first came out, I was given some to try. I watched their training videos and proceeded to prep and prime a piece of aluminum. The next day I scratched...
Forum: Painting your RV 07-10-2022, 08:27 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,996
Posted By Bandera
Prep and cleanliness are key. Iíll work for days...

Prep and cleanliness are key. Iíll work for days just to paint for 30 minutes. Lol :D

My current paint of choice is Sherwin-Williams Jet Glo conventional. Looks great, lasts long time. For thinner,...
Forum: Painting your RV 07-09-2022, 06:46 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,143
Posted By Bandera
I basically do that for hand layouts. Get one...

I basically do that for hand layouts. Get one side how I like it then trace the design on paper. Flip it over on the other side, line up my marks, and trace my pencil lines with a pencil. This leaves...
Forum: Painting your RV 07-01-2022, 08:54 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 889
Posted By Bandera
Most modern paints are not that different from...

Most modern paints are not that different from each other.

If you want a name brand paint, look for a dealer that carries Sherwin-Williams Military Aircraft Coatings. Iíve used it. Itís good stuff....
Forum: Painting your RV 07-01-2022, 03:20 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 889
Posted By Bandera
For priming the bare metal I use about 2.5 quarts...

For priming the bare metal I use about 2.5 quarts sprayable of primer. If painting an all white RV8 with a couple of stripes, I would buy 2 gallons of paint, 2 gallons of hardener, and one gallon of...
Forum: Painting your RV 06-24-2022, 06:12 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 867
Posted By Bandera
After blowing you will still have cooties on the...

After blowing you will still have cooties on the surface. You might not see them at first but after paint is down you will see them. For pre paint cleaning I like a wax and grease remover. Use a lint...
Forum: Painting your RV 06-04-2022, 04:20 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,580
Posted By Bandera
Veriprime does nothing to prevent corrosion....

Veriprime does nothing to prevent corrosion. Also, when it comes time to paint, paint stripper will not take it off. MEK and scotchbrite will though.

Iíve been down the veriprime road many times.
Forum: Painting your RV 06-03-2022, 01:50 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,580
Posted By Bandera
Iíve had customers claim a slight increase in...

Iíve had customers claim a slight increase in speed, like 2 or 3 mph, after painting but never a decrease.
Forum: Painting your RV 06-02-2022, 05:30 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 807
Posted By Bandera
If you want to spend some money, there is always...

If you want to spend some money, there is always Cessna Aerodynamic Filler. I was asked once to use that specifically. About 15 years ago it was $100 per quart.
Forum: Painting your RV 06-01-2022, 09:11 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 807
Posted By Bandera
I like Evercoat Rage for things like hail dents...

I like Evercoat Rage for things like hail dents or light hanger rash. When Iím done sanding the filler Iíll spray a couple coats of PPG K36 on it to make sure that I wonít have a ring around it.
Forum: Painting your RV 05-29-2022, 07:03 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,580
Posted By Bandera
Iíve done flat a couple of times. Itís hard to...

Iíve done flat a couple of times. Itís hard to keep clean and you canít polish out imperfections.
Forum: Painting your RV 05-19-2022, 04:56 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,536
Posted By Bandera
I donít know how many times Iíve heard ďCan you...

I donít know how many times Iíve heard ďCan you do something about those? My wife was helping me rivet that dayĒ. Yes sir, sure can. Lol :D
Forum: Painting your RV 05-17-2022, 08:47 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,536
Posted By Bandera
For bigger dings like a hail dent I like Evercoat...

For bigger dings like a hail dent I like Evercoat Rage or Rage Gold. For smaller dings or scratches I like Evercoat 417. After sanding the filler I prime the spot with PPG K36 primer.
Forum: Painting your RV 05-12-2022, 03:52 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 689
Posted By Bandera
Iíve noticed on planes like the RV-6,7,8, and 9...

Iíve noticed on planes like the RV-6,7,8, and 9 that a simple 3 color paint scheme, base plus two stripes, will weigh in at around 19 pounds. I canít recall off of the top of my head the weight on a...
Forum: Painting your RV 05-03-2022, 07:08 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 540
Posted By Bandera
The biggest thing I like to see is a nicely built...

The biggest thing I like to see is a nicely built airplane. Don’t have pokey bits that can hurt an unexpected finger.

Give some thought to future maintenance. If something is removable, it should...
Forum: Painting your RV 04-26-2022, 05:44 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 968
Posted By Bandera
Generally, the weight difference (painted vs....

Generally, the weight difference (painted vs. unpainted) that I have seen on 2 seat RVís is 19 pounds.
Forum: Painting your RV 04-25-2022, 06:18 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 968
Posted By Bandera
Slightly OT. I see your from Montgomery TX. I’ve...

Slightly OT. I see your from Montgomery TX. I’ve never been that far south. How is it down there?
Forum: Painting your RV 04-25-2022, 06:11 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 968
Posted By Bandera
For metal primer I buy 1 “kit”. With primer I buy...

For metal primer I buy 1 “kit”. With primer I buy that’s 3 quarts of primer and 1 quart of hardener.

For fiberglass primer I buy 1 gallon of primer, 1 quart of hardener, and 1 gallon of reducer when...
Forum: Painting your RV 04-23-2022, 06:20 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 722
Posted By Bandera
If anything is flaking, you need to sand it back...

If anything is flaking, you need to sand it back until it stops flaking. Now fill any pin holes in the sanded area and highbuild prime those areas. Check for pin holes again and reprime those areas....
Forum: Painting your RV 04-22-2022, 05:34 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 400
Posted By Bandera
If you have an inspection panel or other small...

If you have an inspection panel or other small part with that color on it, take that in to an automotive paint store to get color matched. If your paint is old, they can match to take in account any...
Forum: Painting your RV 04-09-2022, 07:47 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,260
Posted By Bandera
For the wingtips I sand them with 180 grit. Sand...

For the wingtips I sand them with 180 grit. Sand them enough so that the shine is gone. Have a good look at the outside edge. Oftentimes you will find some little pinholes. Fill them with glaze coat...
Forum: Primers 04-09-2022, 07:27 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 656
Posted By Bandera
I donít think Iíve ever made it to the bottom of...

I donít think Iíve ever made it to the bottom of a can of that stuff.

My hanger neighbor came by looking for some yesterday. A quick search of places that I could think of revealed nothing. Most...
Forum: Painting your RV 04-07-2022, 04:26 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 414
Posted By Bandera
Those areas I usually wash really good with...

Those areas I usually wash really good with scotchbrite and soap then scotchbrite and etch. They are pretty protected and donít get abused.
Forum: RV Ongoing Maintenance Issues 04-03-2022, 07:31 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 3,738
Posted By Bandera
Iíve never found fiberglass repair to be a very...

Iíve never found fiberglass repair to be a very time consuming task. Spend more time waiting for resin to dry than anything else.
Forum: Painting your RV 04-02-2022, 03:35 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,026
Posted By Bandera
Not an issue with Sherwin Williams Skyscapes or...

Not an issue with Sherwin Williams Skyscapes or AkzoNobel 4400. They are not like automotive base/clear systems.
Forum: Painting your RV 04-01-2022, 05:18 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,026
Posted By Bandera
My PC is M.I.A. at the moment so I canít do a ms...

My PC is M.I.A. at the moment so I canít do a ms paint picture to help describe this but here it goes anyway.

When you paint you add a layer of a certain thickness to the surface. This layer flows...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-31-2022, 04:35 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,026
Posted By Bandera
Here is how I would do it. Mask for your first...

Here is how I would do it.

Mask for your first color and paint
When dry remove all tape
Mask for second color and paint
When dry remove all tape
Mask for final color and paint
Remove your tape
Mask...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-26-2022, 03:09 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 5,121
Posted By Bandera
It can be. Also the vinyl on the cowling is prone...

It can be. Also the vinyl on the cowling is prone to failure. The compound curve of the cowl and the heat from the engine take their toll.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-25-2022, 06:45 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 5,121
Posted By Bandera
I had a neighbor vinyl his airplane. He said it...

I had a neighbor vinyl his airplane. He said it was half the weight and half the money. Found out later that the money was the same. A couple years later it started to bubble and peel.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-24-2022, 06:59 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 5,121
Posted By Bandera
I met a guy in Stockton that had a paint shop....

I met a guy in Stockton that had a paint shop. Surprised the heck out of me. He even said that the city built the hanger to his specs.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-24-2022, 03:54 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 5,121
Posted By Bandera
I use 80 or 100 grit to ruff in body filler. All...

I use 80 or 100 grit to ruff in body filler. All general sanding is done with 180 grit. If Iím scuffing primer, I use 320. Paints like JetGlo, Alumigrip, or Imron will cover 180 scratches. If you...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-23-2022, 04:43 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 5,121
Posted By Bandera
Donít fear painting your airplane. Itís easy....

Donít fear painting your airplane. Itís easy. Just a few minutes and youíre done. All the work is in the prep and even that is not hard.

For paint systems I recommend Sherwin-Williams JetGlo. Itís...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-15-2022, 07:21 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 4,613
Posted By Bandera
JetGlo is my favorite. Looks great, lasts a long...

JetGlo is my favorite. Looks great, lasts a long time. A close second is Alumigrip.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-15-2022, 07:19 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 4,613
Posted By Bandera
When I started painting we used electrostatic...

When I started painting we used electrostatic paint guns. They are the best for transfer efficiency but you could not wear a hood like that. Paint would totally obscure your vision in about 30...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-14-2022, 06:33 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 4,613
Posted By Bandera
Single component paints can easily be removed...

Single component paints can easily be removed with thinner and scotchbrite. Not the best for durability. No need to be worried about 2 part paints. A respirator, paint suit, and eye pro will cost...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-13-2022, 07:57 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 4,613
Posted By Bandera
I have known only one person that has liked it. I...

I have known only one person that has liked it. I found it kinda difficult to lay down nicely. Also the ambient temps have to be over 70 and the humidity has to be low.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-12-2022, 05:59 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 4,613
Posted By Bandera
Aviation paint has better chemical and UV...

Aviation paint has better chemical and UV resistance and is more flexible. It also takes longer to dry due to the size of many planes. Can you get good results on your plane with automotive paint?...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-08-2022, 04:36 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,143
Posted By Bandera
I have never bought a mask for an entire...

I have never bought a mask for an entire airplane. Closest that I have come is a set, 4 masks, of stars and bars. That was $350. 12 inch N-numbers are $75. 3 inch numbers run about $35. My guess...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-07-2022, 08:18 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,143
Posted By Bandera
There is certainly an art to it. Thatís why I...

There is certainly an art to it. Thatís why I like it.
Forum: Painting your RV 03-07-2022, 07:21 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,143
Posted By Bandera
Once you get your first line down you can stand...

Once you get your first line down you can stand back and look at the line. You will see all the imperfections. Lay down a second piece of tape next to your line to smooth out the dips or bumps. Use...
Forum: Painting your RV 03-07-2022, 06:27 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,143
Posted By Bandera
Scheme Designers puts out a nice product. There...

Scheme Designers puts out a nice product. There are others that do also. The detail measurements are nice to have but I usually just go by the overall picture.

Another option is to have the design...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 03-06-2022, 04:21 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,468
Posted By Bandera
Thank you, Mel. It has been a few years since I...

Thank you, Mel. It has been a few years since I was told what happened.
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 03-06-2022, 12:40 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,468
Posted By Bandera
Thanks for the mention of wayback machine. Iím...

Thanks for the mention of wayback machine. Iím getting closer. In an old issue of the accessory catalog I found this picture. This the airplane I am looking for. I would like to find it in...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 03-05-2022, 05:05 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,468
Posted By Bandera
Asking for a small favor. Picture early RV-6

I wonder if I could ask a small favor of the membership? Iím looking for a picture of a RV-6. This RV was pictured in the Vans Accessory Catalog for years. Itís a two tone color scheme RV pictured...
Forum: Painting your RV 02-04-2022, 06:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,459
Posted By Bandera
@cajunwings New Iberia La. Now there is a place...

@cajunwings New Iberia La. Now there is a place that I havenít been to in forever. Painted a bunch of big jets there back in the 90ís.
Forum: Painting your RV 02-04-2022, 04:27 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,459
Posted By Bandera
Your best chance of good color match between...

Your best chance of good color match between parts is to use ďfactory packĒ colors. These are made in the factory in very large quantities. The worst for matching will be reds, yellows, oranges, and...
Forum: Painting your RV 01-21-2022, 04:43 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,129
Posted By Bandera
I have painted around the edges of a lot of...

I have painted around the edges of a lot of windows and never an issue. I use JetGlo paint.

Just use the paint on the window with no primer. You want to see color from the inside.
Forum: Painting your RV 12-20-2021, 08:38 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,410
Posted By Bandera
The fuselage makes a great wing holder.

The fuselage makes a great wing holder.
Forum: Painting your RV 12-17-2021, 10:07 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,443
Posted By Bandera
Iíve done multi color camo schemes several times....

Iíve done multi color camo schemes several times. The way I do it is to prime the entire airplane first. Let it dry then give it a light scuff sand. Paint the light belly color first. Decide where...
Forum: Painting your RV 10-29-2021, 09:23 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,142
Posted By Bandera
Iíve done several military type schemes using FS...

Iíve done several military type schemes using FS numbers. See if you can find a dealer that will mix Sherwin Williams Military Aircraft Coatings.
Forum: Painting your RV 09-07-2021, 07:49 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,960
Posted By Bandera
The first thing people see is the paint job. If...

The first thing people see is the paint job. If they like what they see then they will look in the window to see the panel. If they still like it then they ask questions. Iíve painted for a lot of...
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