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Forum: California Today, 12:35 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 109
Posted By gotyoke
Go to Auburn. Placerville services are limited.

Go to Auburn. Placerville services are limited.
Forum: RV-14 Today, 12:31 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 294
Posted By gotyoke
Great read, thanks!

Great read, thanks!
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 08-07-2022, 02:22 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 257
Posted By gotyoke
Have any advanced flange dimpling techniques to share?

The rear wing spar on the RV-14A has an upper flange that is bent slightly past 90 degrees due to the shape of the wing, and I'm supposed to dimple most of those holes. The squeezer yoke contacts the...
Forum: RV-14 08-05-2022, 09:29 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 277
Posted By gotyoke
Undimpled! The wing walk doubler goes over this,...

Undimpled! The wing walk doubler goes over this, which is countersunk.
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 08-01-2022, 09:37 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 814
Posted By gotyoke
I too moved to nails, and found a brand whose...

I too moved to nails, and found a brand whose head was just barely big enough. Actually, it's still too small because with many uses the holes in the die are all messed up.

The other problem is the...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 07-25-2022, 07:32 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,275
Posted By gotyoke
Talk me into/out of Beringer wheels/brakes

I don't have more than a couple months to decide. Primary considerations:


Initial cost ($5k extra, maybe more)
Long-term costs (no flats, better brake durability, but they cost more)
Maintenance...
Forum: RV-14 07-24-2022, 02:39 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 361
Posted By gotyoke
Obviously do not take the word of forumers on...

Obviously do not take the word of forumers on this one alone, talk to Van's.

It looks to me that the only thing this hole rivets to is the rear spar, in which case it may end up being sufficient to...
Forum: RV-14 07-24-2022, 10:25 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 501
Posted By gotyoke
For posterity's sake, I ended up using the right...

For posterity's sake, I ended up using the right J-channel in the left leading edge (and vice versa), and it worked out just fine.
Forum: RV-14 07-22-2022, 04:08 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 501
Posted By gotyoke
Leading edge plans are wrong (I think)

I'm referring to the J-stiffeners, and it's not the length issue in the gotcha's page. Section 17-03 step 4 and figure 2 show drilling the inboard hole of the left J-stiffener. I did...
Forum: RV-14 07-18-2022, 10:54 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 272
Posted By gotyoke
Sect 17 Leading Edges when to dimple ribs?

RV-14 Plans, section 17-03 step 3 says "Dimple all the #40 holes in the flanges of all the W-1008-L & -R Splice Ribs and W-1009-L & -R Leading Edge Ribs." Normally I choose to dimple after I prime,...
Forum: RV-14 07-09-2022, 11:09 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 833
Posted By gotyoke
Step 2 has you countersink the #40 fuel tank...

Step 2 has you countersink the #40 fuel tank nutplate attach holes and step 7 the #40 skin and rib attach holes. Step 8 then says to spot prime the countersunk holes in steps 2, 5, and 7. So the...
Forum: RV-14 07-07-2022, 06:01 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 671
Posted By gotyoke
I too was confused by this note. The ribs attach...

I too was confused by this note. The ribs attach to the spar web with AN470AD4s, no countersink as you mentioned.

I believe this note refers to just the #40 holes in the flanges. The countersinking...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 06-28-2022, 11:18 AM
Replies: 0
Views: 452
Posted By gotyoke
Song stuck in my head

Flo Rida isn't my taste in music, but lately when I'm getting ready to go out and work on the wings, this song enters my head.

I know what this means
Parts to deburr
(To Deburr)
Advisor was looking...
Forum: RV-14 06-24-2022, 11:19 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 837
Posted By gotyoke
Consternation regarding aileron skin hole alignment

While wraping the skin around the aileron skeleton (22-04 step 3), I man-handled the skin enough for my wife to get clecoes into the holes. But try to slip a AD3 rivet in the holes and they don't go...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 06-07-2022, 08:35 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 623
Posted By gotyoke
My wing kit, picked up in mid-April, has parts...

My wing kit, picked up in mid-April, has parts backordered that are needed in the first section. Fortunately there's plenty other things to do. I'm on my 4th concurrently open section. Be thankful...
Forum: California 06-03-2022, 11:50 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,461
Posted By gotyoke
For my Emp last year, Van's collected sales tax....

For my Emp last year, Van's collected sales tax. For the wings this year, Van's did not (both will-call pickup). So I'll be setting aside $677.76 (that's how much Van's would have collected for sales...
Forum: RV-14 05-27-2022, 05:50 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 585
Posted By gotyoke
Awesome, thanks!

Awesome, thanks!
Forum: RV-14 05-27-2022, 03:06 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 585
Posted By gotyoke
Flaps trailing edge not aligned with skin

Section 21, page 5, I'm fabricating the trailing edge pieces for the left flap. This here is the short section of trailing edge clecoed to FL-00002B. I know this is the correct side of the correct...
Forum: RV-14 05-20-2022, 01:08 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,429
Posted By gotyoke
I think nearly every reply missed the point...

I think nearly every reply missed the point entirely. In the plans we are told the maximum dimensions of these particular holes, not a general rule like "countersink for a dimpled skin", which is...
Forum: RV-14 05-19-2022, 05:58 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,429
Posted By gotyoke
Man, I was really hoping someone would respond....

Man, I was really hoping someone would respond. I'm just about to hit this step.
Forum: RV-14 05-08-2022, 02:07 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 2,559
Posted By gotyoke
I also have this hole, and it's bigger than #19....

I also have this hole, and it's bigger than #19. What to do?

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Forum: Autopilots 05-05-2022, 09:48 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 3,355
Posted By gotyoke
Thread resurrect. With GAD 27 + GSA 28 + Ray...

Thread resurrect.

With GAD 27 + GSA 28 + Ray Allen (RA) trim servos, two of the RA conductors will connect to the GSA 28. What are the other three RA conductors supposed to connect to? GEA 24? And...
Forum: RV-14 04-24-2022, 05:58 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 810
Posted By gotyoke
My approach was to flute the web of the front of...

My approach was to flute the web of the front of that rib, which narrows it. It was still a tight fit afterward, but the amount of man-handling was considerably less.
Forum: Tools 04-24-2022, 01:31 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 830
Posted By gotyoke
For anyone interested, where I landed was I...

For anyone interested, where I landed was I bought a single-flute countersink bit (from Cleaveland Tool), not expecting it to be much better than a three-flute. But I was wrong, that thing is...
Forum: Tools 04-17-2022, 02:16 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 830
Posted By gotyoke
Drill runout woes

I'm about to countersink the main spars for the RV-14 wings, but the wobble in my electric drill has me worried. The pneumatic drill is too fast. And my drill press doesn't have enough height. I have...
Forum: Primers 04-13-2022, 09:47 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 429
Posted By gotyoke
This is unlikely to provide any help to you, but...

This is unlikely to provide any help to you, but maybe. My local SW, which is oriented more toward the residential/commercial market, pointed me to a regional SW that handles more of their industrial...
Forum: RV-14 04-11-2022, 04:42 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,411
Posted By gotyoke
It's not exactly what you're asking for, but...

It's not exactly what you're asking for, but Van's wing kits come standard with a stall warning instrument (Chapter 17, page 7). AoA instruments are not standard in their kit.
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 03-29-2022, 04:33 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,531
Posted By gotyoke
I'm not an A&P and I'm still early in my build....

I'm not an A&P and I'm still early in my build. When you have to replace something like this, I envision you drilling out all the rivets securing the skin. Ouch.

Then what about riveting the new...
Forum: Electrical Systems 03-23-2022, 08:40 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,247
Posted By gotyoke
When I built the harness I went one size down too...

When I built the harness I went one size down too and was happy with the results. Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy :)
Forum: Electrical Systems 03-22-2022, 09:12 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,247
Posted By gotyoke
Yikes! Four times the cost of the knife blade...

Yikes! Four times the cost of the knife blade ones. I'll have to think about that.

Also, my post wasn't clear that I was trying to strip one of the unshielded conductors inside an already-stripped...
Forum: Electrical Systems 03-22-2022, 07:22 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,247
Posted By gotyoke
Wire stripping frustrations

I'm getting frustrated with this Ideal Stripmaster, which is supposed to be a great quality tool. Or maybe I should be mad at the wires. All wire is Tefzel (22759), which I assumed was all identical,...
Forum: Electrical Systems 03-16-2022, 01:22 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 899
Posted By gotyoke
Which wires are fat, which are skinny?

To the many fans of AeroElectric connection, you know Bob Nuckolls advocates separation as a primary means of reducing the problems associated with Electromagnetic Compatibility. For example, he says...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 03-15-2022, 06:53 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 10,229
Posted By gotyoke
Dude! Now to get that video card...

Dude! Now to get that video card...
Forum: RV-14 03-15-2022, 06:50 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,074
Posted By gotyoke
Not just "lightly", paranoid levels of lightly....

Not just "lightly", paranoid levels of lightly. And fine grit. I ruined a HS nose rib in 0.5 seconds by just skimming it with the belt sander. Now I use the Scotchbrite wheel for this task.
Forum: RV-14 03-15-2022, 06:40 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,570
Posted By gotyoke
This is the explanation I suspect is the most...

This is the explanation I suspect is the most likely. I do not have a rivet tool with a narrow nose piece, just one that seems standard...
Forum: RV-14 03-14-2022, 10:56 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,570
Posted By gotyoke
Got an answer back from support. Van's stands by...

Got an answer back from support. Van's stands by the LP4-5. They think I used the wrong rivet, however I know I used the LP4-5, because the bag came with two and I blew through them both on this...
Forum: RV-14 03-12-2022, 11:46 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,570
Posted By gotyoke
Rudder tie wrap clip wrong rivet

The instructions on 07-05 call for a LP4-5, which I set from the clip side. This little nub is all I had on the other side.

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Not happy, I drilled it out carefully and re-riveted from the other...
Forum: Traditional Aircraft Engines 03-11-2022, 03:33 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,725
Posted By gotyoke
Well, my plan is to just choke it down, plan to...

Well, my plan is to just choke it down, plan to pay more when I'm really ready. I am way too uninformed to make these decisions right now. And I fully recognize there will probably be yet another...
Forum: Instrument Flight Rules 03-08-2022, 09:54 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 3,117
Posted By gotyoke
I read that memo differently. It doesn't alter...

I read that memo differently. It doesn't alter the phrase at all, it clarifies prior misinterpretations.

"...test an applicant on three different kinds of approaches, consisting of one precision...
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 03-07-2022, 07:36 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 456
Posted By gotyoke
Trailing edge bow following VHB cure

I applied 3M VHB tape to both sides of my RV-14 elevator and trim tab trailing edge wedges. I removed the backing on the side that contacts the bottom skins and secured the wedge in place, clecoing...
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 03-06-2022, 10:19 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 882
Posted By gotyoke
You had the top and bottom skins swapped. I did...

You had the top and bottom skins swapped. I did the same thing, but didn't figure it out until after lots of riveting. If you riveted, this will be good rivet drilling practice.
Forum: RV-14 03-06-2022, 08:26 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,755
Posted By gotyoke
The way I read it, and I haven't gotten to the...

The way I read it, and I haven't gotten to the part yet, that sentence and the rest in step 2 are more like notes for steps 3 and 4. The wedge is already adhered to the right skin in step 1, so now...
Forum: RV-14 02-28-2022, 02:03 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 4,199
Posted By gotyoke
This oversight by Van's, five years after...

This oversight by Van's, five years after acknowledging the omission, bit me today. When I started working on the elevator over a month ago, I made a mental note to make sure I dimple these holes...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 02-27-2022, 11:45 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 649
Posted By gotyoke
Pull rivet broke high

The stem of this pull rivet broke off high, and my pullers won't grip it. I used good technique and the rivet itself is well set. But what do I do about this stem? Leave it as is (the rolled leading...
Forum: RV-14 02-25-2022, 05:44 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 3,355
Posted By gotyoke
First time builder here, near to crossing the 200...

First time builder here, near to crossing the 200 hour mark with hands on tools/parts. Done with vertical stabilizer and horizontal stabilizer, 70% done with rudder, 70% done with elevator. Even as I...
Forum: RV-14 02-23-2022, 10:47 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 952
Posted By gotyoke
Did this just a couple days ago. The squeezer...

Did this just a couple days ago. The squeezer worked just fine to double-flush rivet. I alternated the direction of the rivets in case there was a tendency to twist, but I suspect that wasn't...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 02-16-2022, 07:57 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 531
Posted By gotyoke
Putting off aft fuselage until after wings?

I may be getting my wing kit at just about the time I've finished my (RV-14) tail feathers. This leaves me the option of holding off on the rear fusealge (Chapter 10 and beyond) until I've finished...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 02-13-2022, 10:56 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,339
Posted By gotyoke
Question What is considered fabrication, and what is assembly?

From old threads it appears the official definitions of fabrication and assembly are not cut in stone. Building a 14, Van's has done a lot of work that older kit builders needed to handle, but still...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 02-12-2022, 03:22 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 913
Posted By gotyoke
I picked up my emp kit will-call, which had four...

I picked up my emp kit will-call, which had four backordered parts. I think I got my kit a little earlier than some folks who ordered before me because of this. I received the backordered parts all...
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 02-11-2022, 02:14 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,191
Posted By gotyoke
This seems like the exact opposite situation...

This seems like the exact opposite situation where an oops rivet makes sense.
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 02-10-2022, 02:44 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,191
Posted By gotyoke
Answer from the home base: One bad hole at the...

Answer from the home base:

One bad hole at the very end is certainly not reason for replacing the part. You could just drive the rivet and accept this as it is or you could add some JB weld. It...
Forum: RV-14 02-10-2022, 01:01 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 619
Posted By gotyoke
09-22 shows those as CS4-4 rivets (left inboard)....

09-22 shows those as CS4-4 rivets (left inboard). That page says to wait to rivet them, but doesn't tell you later on when to do it. :shrug:

The short flanges look to be riveted with AN470AD4-4, so...
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 02-09-2022, 07:04 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,191
Posted By gotyoke
Picture added to original post. Just the one...

Picture added to original post. Just the one hole, both sides though. Email to support pending.
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 02-09-2022, 06:45 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,191
Posted By gotyoke
Repair advice: Trailing edge wedge countersunk hole too deep

I over-countersunk the tapered hole on the RV-14 right elevator trailing edge wedge. Hole size seems fine but the dimpled test coupon slides around. I can't imagine this is a critical structural...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 02-05-2022, 01:18 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,079
Posted By gotyoke
Your order is in queue. The queue is currently...

Your order is in queue. The queue is currently about two weeks long, based on my recent orders, perhaps a little less. It says "Pending" until they get to it.
Forum: Primers 02-02-2022, 12:58 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 937
Posted By gotyoke
I've done both and haven't found much difference....

I've done both and haven't found much difference. May depend on the primer--I use SW P60G2. If you decide to dimple first and need to scuff to prep for primer, do it before dimpling.
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 01-25-2022, 11:03 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 754
Posted By gotyoke
All extremely helpful replies. Thank you!

All extremely helpful replies. Thank you!
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 01-25-2022, 05:34 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 754
Posted By gotyoke
Minimum skin thickness for NAS1097AD3 (Oops rivets)?

I'm looking to avoid dimpling platenuts where reasonable, and know about using NAS1097AD3 (oops) rivets in slightly countersunk skin holes for that purpose. What is the minumum skin thickness that...
Forum: RV-14 01-19-2022, 10:46 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 3,242
Posted By gotyoke
Does this conflict with the center console power...

Does this conflict with the center console power module?

https://store.vansaircraft.com/rv-14-14a-power-module-install-kit-14-power-mod-install-kit.html

Edit: The video answers that question. There...
Forum: RV-14 01-16-2022, 07:32 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 4,552
Posted By gotyoke
What did Van's say about this? I did pretty much...

What did Van's say about this? I did pretty much the exact same thing with my reamer, despite trying hard to keep the drill square. I have some AN5 rivets on order.

How are you experience folks...
Forum: RV-14 01-14-2022, 02:39 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 960
Posted By gotyoke
Chapter 8: Can I take off the front spar caps to final-sized drill the doubler?

Chapter 8, page 4, step 4 says "Step 4: Except for those indicated in Figure 1, final-drill #30 the 1/8 [3.2 mm] holes common to the HS-00902-1 Front Spar and the HS-00907-1 Front Spar Doubler."

It...
Forum: RV-14 01-05-2022, 07:43 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,033
Posted By gotyoke
Even after the 0.007" extra skelrad appropriately...

Even after the 0.007" extra skelrad appropriately mentions, it may seem like the doubler isn't sitting completely flush. That's okay! No need to go deeper still as that depth will result in optimal...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 01-05-2022, 06:16 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 835
Posted By gotyoke
I took a slow approach to tool gathering for the...

I took a slow approach to tool gathering for the practice kits just as you did. Best option is to borrow the tools as wirejock said. I didn't. Assuming you have household tools like a hand drill...
Forum: RV-14 12-30-2021, 09:31 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 3,897
Posted By gotyoke
I submitted my order for a -14A emp on July 3rd...

I submitted my order for a -14A emp on July 3rd and paid my deposit on July 12 when it was a 4 month lead time to crating. I don't know when it went to crating, but it was available for will-call...
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