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ChiefPilot 05-17-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chazking (Post 771593)
All, I'm applying my n-number (N1XS) shortly. Many of you know the regs well and wondered if I could use the following:?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2yo4vnc&s=5

I got gigged on my inspection because the N-number decal, purchased from Aircraft Spruce specifically for this purpose, had the 'B' character 1/8" too narrow. Yes, the DAR pulled out a scale and measured.

I don't think the design is a good idea - even if you get it past the DAR, a later ramp check or similar might end in tears.

*ETA - I really appreciated the orientation to detail that he provided. If you're in the MN area, you'd do well to look up Tim Mahoney when it's time for your inspection.

mculver 05-17-2013 12:29 PM

You could make some legal 2" numbers, with these being additional "artwork". But I personally believe that doing it once, per regs, is the right answer.

rvbuilder2002 05-17-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefPilot (Post 771635)
I got gigged on my inspection because the N-number decal, purchased from Aircraft Spruce specifically for this purpose, had the 'B' character 1/8" too narrow. Yes, the DAR pulled out a scale and measured.

I don't think the design is a good idea - even if you get it past the DAR, a later ramp check or similar might end in tears.

*ETA - I really appreciated the orientation to detail that he provided. If you're in the MN area, you'd do well to look up Tim Mahoney when it's time for your inspection.

In a lot of different font styles (maybe all), it is very common for the letters of the alphabet to not all be the same hight.
Adjustments are made to some of the letters so that to our eye they all look the same size. Apparently, the large variation in shapes will trick out eye to thinking they are not the same hight, when they really are. This needs to be considered when ordering lettering.

az_gila 05-17-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002 (Post 771648)
In a lot of different font styles (maybe all), it is very common for the letters of the alphabet to not all be the same hight.
Adjustments are made to some of the letters so that to our eye they all look the same size. Apparently, the large variation in shapes will trick out eye to thinking they are not the same hight, when they really are. This needs to be considered when ordering lettering.

Exactly, which is why you need a geometric font and not one that is visually corrected...:)

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...8&postcount=10

I challenge anyone to find another standard font that meets (exactly) the FAA letter width and stroke width requirements as the correct fraction of letter height.

ChiefPilot 05-17-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002 (Post 771648)
In a lot of different font styles (maybe all), it is very common for the letters of the alphabet to not all be the same hight.
Adjustments are made to some of the letters so that to our eye they all look the same size. Apparently, the large variation in shapes will trick out eye to thinking they are not the same hight, when they really are. This needs to be considered when ordering lettering.

This was ACS' N-number strip - not individually ordered characters.

But your point is well taken. Even ordering N-number decals from a well known supplier isn't a guarantee of accuracy.

vic syracuse 05-17-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mculver (Post 771638)
You could make some legal 2" numbers, with these being additional "artwork". But I personally believe that doing it once, per regs, is the right answer.

I am not aware of any legal 2" numbers. They need to be at least 3".

http://www.flightsimaviation.com/dat...art_45-29.html

VIc

AX-O 05-17-2013 02:15 PM

Question about ?NX? on N Number.
 
I am building an RV-4 and have been thinking about using the ?NX? on my N number to specify experimental. My question is this

When I use the N number during radio calls, do I say

November-one-two-three-alpha-bravo

Or

November-Xray-one-two-three-alpha-bravo

Or

Experimental November-one-two-three-alpha-bravo

Thanks for any help.

Mel 05-17-2013 02:21 PM

2" numbers may be used on the RV-3 and -4 per 45.22(b), but not the RV-10, as in this case.

Mel 05-17-2013 02:23 PM

When using the "NX" number on the aircraft, the "X" only replaces the 2" "experimental" placard.

The "X" does not show up in ANY paperwork, or within ANY radio communications.

AX-O 05-17-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mel (Post 771679)
The "X" does not show up in ANY paperwork, or within ANY radio communications.

Thank you Sir.


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