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I am pretty sure one of the Van's staff said that a IO360 could be substituted for the IO390.
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It didn't look like it from the "walk around" video, but does anyone know if the -14 uses a reflexed flap position like the -10 in cruise?
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VNE ????
Anyone know the VNE???
Would be perfect with the IO408 for mogas, 218 HP:D OlaM |
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MOGAS
Jupp, the 408 is approved for MOGAS with lower compression, 218 HP:D
And the 390 will also run on MOGAS if the compression is lowered, performing around 200HP. Remeber, this is Experimental, we can make the changes we want. And BPE or anyone....will probably offer 390 for MOGAS if we, the customers, want it OlaM |
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How much help needed?
I have completed a -12 and really enjoyed the process. Vans technology and paperware were so user-friendly.
I keep seeing reports that the -14 has the same process, and builders can expect a 30% reduction in build time, compared with the -7. What I have not been able to find in posts to date is just how much of the -14 riveting is solid rivets. And more importantly for me, how much of the solid riveting needs a helper on the bucking bar? I built my -12 on my own. Including flipping the wings. I could set all the rivets without assistance. Can a -14 be built with minimal help? Rod |
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Rod, I'm building a 10, so I can tell you it can be done by yourself. However, there are some tasks that are easier with a partner. Since the 14 uses the 10 wing, riveting the bottom skin is easier if you have a partner to assist. The RV-10 community has a cheat sheet on the order of rivets to do first to make the job easier. I suspect the logic would apply to the 14 as well. bob |
Late to this thread. Saw the -14 at OSH and my overall opinion on it is....
meh. Just flew a -7 this week and was reminded how much nicer a -6 flies. The -14 will fly like the -10...heavy. |
I agree with Bob
I'm building a 10, and I have had less than 5 hours of someone helping me rivet. I am done with 99% of the riveting. Most of that was on the fuselage.
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Hi Bill and Bob
Thanks for your encouraging replies. It looks like Vans has single builder as one of their design constraints on the -10. I hope the -14 is the same. They need to point it out more clearly in their promptional releases, if that's the case. With the 12 vans made a big thing of the lack of jigs and the small collection of tools required. I hope we hear more of that stuff for the -14. Rod |
Nice Bird
Looks great and the extra roominess is a good addition, but..... $9000 for the wing kit ... wow $2200 over a 7 wing
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I'm pretty sure the landing lights and wing tip strobes are included but I doubt the autopilot servos will be.
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On the RV-12, those are all options.
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CAnopy Release
Having built the RV-7 which also has the release I can tell you that it is a very nice thing to have for doing any kind of maintenance behind the panel. The canopy can be quickly and easily removed. The emergency handle that goes with it probably costs less than a dollar to make so would be kind of ridiculous to charge extra for it as an option. You don't need to install the handle if it makes you nervous.
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I talked to them about this at the Homecoming, and the way the gas lift strut is installed has a lot to do with this.
Basically the hinge and strut mechanism are mounted to the airframe, and the canopy is mounted to the hinge-----makes it a lot easier to build if the canopy is removable. |
I can understand it's not for everyone, but a 2 seat RV10 as they describe it is perfect for my mission, being both big and tall, I'll pay a little speed and weight penalty for the comfort. Plus hopefully simplified wiring and lower build time, I'm sold.
I do question the benefit of using the I0-390 over a 200hp 360, especially at the price they get for a 390 when I can buy a used 360 (hopefully). Anyone have thoughts on that? |
On speaking with a Vans rep at OSH, a 200 HP angle valve IO-360 is also usable with the RV-14 since its external dimensions are the same as the IO-390 and would be able to utilize the same firewall forward kit without any modifications.
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tryin' it on for size....warning!!!
I made my first pilgrimmage to the mothership last week, picked up a few hats, parts etc.
Even tho' I was late, ( Portland 'no turns' signs are new to me!!! :( they called out Ken Scott who gave my family a personal tour of the facility! ...then out to the hangar, where I sat in the new -14a. My advice? Don't! .....as would be expected with a design as it evolves, it's a whole lot of things I wish my -9a was....but I couldn't help thinking..." aw, man, why didn't he do this one FIRST?" :) |
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the year end. An IO-390 will probably be a little less than the IO-360 we sell, $39,300." ...so I guess that lines up with what you heard. |
Fortunately, I'm not that far along on my 9. If I can afford it the 14 looks like it has stolen my heart (now to see if the wallet can stand the shock)!
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Yeah - I'm doing a little chocking on that one. I sure would like to start the emp first. Of course I can wait, but...
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Seems like the more I make the further away the dream of building gets but I digress.... |
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