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donoltman 07-25-2012 05:38 PM

RV-14
 
Could it be the first real mistake that Vans has made? Are people really going to build a two seater and spend the huge money for a IO-390? I really don't see how the numbers are going to work out, maybe I'm missing something.
Don

Kram 07-25-2012 06:24 PM

fuel consumption in an IO 390
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=12232

RV7ator 07-25-2012 07:17 PM

Vne
 
Per Ken K, it's 200k.

His estimate for a finished -14 I think is way low (aren't most Van's estimates?) These fatsos are going to be overstuffed cruisers.

BTW, an ASP 375 with Lycon jugs is cheaper and stronger than a 390.

My $.03 (inflation).

John Siebold

N941WR 07-25-2012 07:41 PM

Just finished reading this entire thread and thought Ihave would add my $.02
iFor those who missed it there will be only one engine choice, the IO-390. It is not a -9 upgrade because it is an acro bird. with the pre-made wiring harness there will be limited options for customizing things.

As for Ken and his taildragger comments, he tried to talk me out of building my -9 as a taildragger. So no surprise there.

RV7ator 07-25-2012 09:12 PM

Baggage Limits
 
I believe Van's has created an attractive nuisance with the capacious baggage area. It's about three times the volume of my 7 but shares the same 100 pound limit. I couldn't get a straight answer whether this was a structural or c.g. driven limit. Fortunately, the Cessna measure of "if it can get through the door, it will fly" may have a built-in throttle with the -14 because there's no baggage door and the tipper set-up inhibits direct access for those heavy clunky items (ice chest). But if you can get it in there, you can get a lot of it in there, so 100 pounds seems rather absurd for this aircraft. I'm wondering what's left over for available useful load in the baggage area within aft c.g. limit for Van's concept of a "standard" -14.

John Siebold

KTM520guy 07-25-2012 09:37 PM

If a person does not want an io390 I don't think anything would stop them from using a io360 or a superior xp400.

SHIPCHIEF 07-25-2012 09:42 PM

To answer the baggage volume issue, going to fly-ins with a folding bike makes all the difference.
Folding Dahon Mariner & similar machines weigh about 35 lbs each.
If two folding bikes and minimal kit fit in there, then that's a real winner.

comfortcat 07-25-2012 10:24 PM

Is this an LSA??? I thought this was an experimental aircraft?

This is a funny comment from a guy who put a 360 on a -9

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by N941WR (Post 683415)
For those who missed it there will be only one engine choice, the IO-390.


pierre smith 07-26-2012 04:54 AM

Do what you like.
 
As usual, the gross weight and the engine choice is owner driven.

To me, this begs to be a Rocket's family member...and yes...it's still "Experimental" aviation.

Best,

N941WR 07-26-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comfortcat (Post 683462)
Is this an LSA??? I thought this was an experimental aircraft?

This is a funny comment from a guy who put a 360 on a -9

:)

Exactly! however Van's said to look for RV-12 build times and to do that you must pick every option they offer
BTW, Van' doesn't really support the O-290 and they give me a hard time about the O-360.


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