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How did I miss all this speculation? Ok, you guys have wondered long enough; let me pull back the curtain for you. The RV-14 is a high-altitude delivery vehicle. The reason it won't be announced until the RV-13 is ready is because the RV-13 is the orbiter it is designed to deliver. Imagine the White Knight and Space Ship One designed for Total Performance.
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The RV-12 Electrical System AutoCAD drawing download from Van's site has some interesting layers, no content and turned off:
ADS-B NAVWORX ADS600-B WH-00019 WH-00014 RV-14 AUTOPILOT DYNON SV-32 WH-00024 RV-14 AUTOPILOT TRU TRAK AUTO TRIM WH-00065 RV-14 EFIS DYNON SV-D1000 WH-00021 RV-14 ELT ACK E-04 RV-14 FLAP POSITION SENSOR KIT RAY ALLEN EX MSTS POS-12 RV-14 FWALL FWD LYCOMING IO-390 WH-00043 RV-14 GPS DYNON SV-GPS-250 WH-00064 RV-14 IGNITION LYCOMING ELEC IGN LEFT AND RIGHT RV-14 IGNITION LYCOMING MAG LEFT MAG RIGHT RV-14 IGNITION LYCOMING MAG LEFT PMAG RIGHT RV-14 IGNITION PMAG LEFT PMAG RIGHT RV-14 LIGHT INTERIOR LC LED STRIP RED RV-14 LIGHT LANDING AEROLED RV-14 etc. It appears the 14 will be a serious well equiped airplane with factory plug & play avionics. |
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How 'bout an even wilder guess then.... with a powerful IO-390 engine, maybe a smaller 4-place 2+2 sport plane style that's cheaper to build than the RV-10 and can seat two in comfort like an RV-7 but with full baggage and full fuel for 2 but still be able to squeeze in two back-seater pax with light fuel and no baggage in a pinch. |
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PMAGS now a factory option? |
Tony, how about a link to dwg?
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Can't wait
I have been waiting to start a RV10 since the first kit was produced. If half these rumors are true, I might have to reconsider. Wouldn't it be great if this was a modern version of the Wittman tailwind?
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I downloaded those files, opened them in the online viewer using the Vans posted PDF instructions, and can't seem to find the specified RV-14 info...are there tricks, or am I...see title :confused:
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I just checked the current AutoCAD file on the website and yes, the layers have been cleaned up. No RV-14 layers are present. Tony |
If the IO-390 is correct, a `total performance' high wing bush plane could be a good bet, as other have also suggested. It's about the only obvious gap left in Van's range that wouldn't dilute market share of the existing kits. Ken Kreuger makes some interesting comments in this video:
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Interesting...
Were those comments by Ken K. a peek into the future that we didn't pay attention to? I've never give serious thought to Van's doing a high wing plane... much like I never thought Cessna would have a low wing single in their showrooms. Maybe a high-wing is possible...
Looking back many years on my posts, I opined that there ARE a couple holes in the Van's lineup. Personally I have argued that there needs to be a lower cost alternative to the RV-10 that is capable of carrying more than 2. I called it a Van's Tiger. I still feel that this O-360 (IO-390?!) powered craft would compliment their lineup and be a good seller. However, as my life has evolved, I see myself more involved in local/sport flying, and have developed a strong desire for a Tandem LSA-compatible aircraft. I was truly hoping this was the RV-14. That is the other hole in their lineup. NOBODY has a good Tandem, low wing LSA. So, I find this accidental leak from Van's a little disappointing if it is accurate. We'll see what comes to fruition. I really would prefer to build an RV. Also watching the little CX5 Development as well as this: http://www.haim-aviation.com dj |
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In the video he states that he has been messing around with a design like a "high wing RV-10" with a cantilever wing and "really rugged" tricycle, torsion bar landing gear and a built in cargo pod.
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I spoke with someone today who heard a supposedly good rumor source that the RV-14A is a bigger, widened "fat-boy" tri-gear version of the RV-7 with possibly the capability of seating 3 side-by-side or at least two side-by-side with lots of elbow room and large baggage capacity. Low wing, with a wing more like an RV-9 or possibly even a shortened RV-10 wing with big fuel tanks, and the IO-390 engine was also mentioned.
Anybody else hear anything along these lines? Such a plane sure would be a great cross-country traveling cruiser. |
Well, I was at Van's this past week, and I DID hear something...
It sounded a whole lot like active riveting. On what, I have no idea, but there was definitely activity behind that big door that Joe wouldn't open :). He did, however, succeed on sending us on a wild goose chase for lunch along the Oregon coast. We did five airports that day, three of which were supposed to have food. Much fun. Joe, don't let Tanya make you feel too bad. On our third try/stop, she saw a whale and commanded an immediate left turn to circle in the downwind :). |
I'm a patient man so I can't / won't / don't get spooled up with curiosity as to what the next RV will be. My only hope is that it will be enticing enough to compell me to build. I'm not there yet ;)
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can't wait
I am waiting on the facts on the RV14 before I commit to a partially completed RV10. If it is a four seater (or even a 3) with a high wing for us old farts who can't climb up, I will be all over it like poop in a babies diaper.
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What can Vans do better? OR more??? Buy Cub Crafters? Sell Carbon Cubs?...... not!!! Buy Zen Air?? Too uggley,, you uggley,, you are uggggely Make a PP C180 kit? well it is not in production,,, but how many need a C180? I like my RV8, 180 hp O-360,, hard to improve on that. 2200+ hours in RV's and I hope to get many more in the 'Borrowed Horse' |
Look at the article concerning Vans in the latest sport aviation. Look at the shot of the CAD screen.....I see a double taper wing planform so I am guessing a motorglider.
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Three across seating could be done like Burt Rutan did on the Catbird.
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Three across could also be as simple as a bench seat that two full size adults could fit in, with a child or very skinny person squeezed in the middle. Kinda like an early Datsun compact pickup truck's bench seat.
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They advertised that as three across seating? Not sure that my Chief Financial Officer would like that arrangement! :D
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I wonder if Burt ever travelled with 5 people in this? :) I think Van's motorglider might just be in time for some of us builders lacking fuel and hangar funds!!! ( I wonder if it will have removable wings, or folding?) |
Any more intell and/or rumors coming in on the new design?
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4-6 place high performance long range cross country machine. An RV-10 killer. Rumor heard at Arlington Air Show
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Breaking news, maybe.
I just left Van's about an hour ago after a very nice tour of their facility given to us by Ken. So here we are standing in their open hanger and discussing the pros and cons of their different models and I ask Ken what's next for Van's and if there's anything new behind that big roll up door at the back of the hanger that's open about a foot off the floor. He looks at me and says he doesn't know nut-in. Says they don't tell him anything. Well a few minutes later one of the employees ask's everyone to please go next door into the shop cause they have to open the door to get a fork truck thru. We all go into the shop area for a few minutes and while Ken fields requests for demo rides the same guys comes thru the door and waves OK. Might mean absolutely nothing but it sure peeked my interest.
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Despite some of the ridiculous meandering of this thread, going back to the initial posting - based on FAA records we know there is an RV-14. ;) Hopefully we'll know more on the 25th:
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I know that Van has been working pretty steady on a glider or motor-glider. So that would be my guess...
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I heard today from an impeccable source that it will be at Oshkosh. So no point in speculating, in a week we shall see. :)
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Maybe...
According to FAA Registry, single engine, 2 seats. Someone said a Lyco 390, so maybe an improved -7a? Sounds serious if Van is giving the report himself....
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IMHO. RV 9 High cantiliver wing, tricycle gear, Lyc O-233, 2place, side by side, EAB kit that will qualify in the light sport category would knock it out of the park.
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Stopped by KUAO today...
I was told that there is to be "an unveiling of a 'super secret' on Monday afternoon". :eek: Also heard some news that may make me hold off on the -12 kit purchase for a year. :rolleyes: Keeping the ear to the rails. Just hope the train sees me in time to stop. |
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Sounds like we will know on Monday what is rumor and what is real.
I have heard everything from a three seat RV with an IO-390, to the electric self launching motor glider. Interesting what people have come up with as speculation. We will know Monday, if the RV14 is actually what is to be unveiled. |
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