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drycreek 03-30-2012 04:51 PM

So, there wasn't really anything new at the "What's new at Van's Aircraft" forum?

rgmwa 03-30-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdH (Post 644829)
A few pages back I guessed IO-233 powered...Prompted by another thread I was on Larry Vetterman's website earlier and noticed that mid-2011 he announced he had developed an exhaust system for that engine.

I could be adding 2 and 2 and making 5 of course... :D

FWIW (nothing), I think that's a good bet, given Van's longstanding relationship with Lycoming. It would be surprising if they didn't eventually dream up something with `total performance' to hang off the back of this engine.

FresnoR 03-30-2012 07:37 PM

So who wants start the "Is Van's going to introduce the RV-14A at Osh this year?" thread?

RPorter 03-30-2012 08:08 PM

my refresh button hates me :D:D

rockwoodrv9 03-30-2012 08:37 PM

lots of fun for $10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 644952)
Thats the only part that doesn't really fit well into an April Fools joke.

So, like the rest of you, I'm dying to know what's going on. Many have offered great suggestions and wishes, all of them really exciting. So come on Vans, time to spill the beans :D You're killing us!

For the $10 fee to FAA, I'm saying they got their moneys worth. I have spend way more than that for less fun!

In reality, I believe something is up at Vans, and the mystery is just a bonus for them. I think the new little Lycoming will be part of it.

Jamie 03-30-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9 (Post 645003)
For the $10 fee to FAA, I'm saying they got their moneys worth. I have spend way more than that for less fun!

In reality, I believe something is up at Vans, and the mystery is just a bonus for them. I think the new little Lycoming will be part of it.

For the nth time - it's a registered airplane, not an n-number reservation.

Flying Scotsman 03-30-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 645005)
For the nth time - it's a registered airplane, not an n-number reservation.

Doesn't mean there's anything resembling a completed aircraft, though...could be nothing more than a set of wing spars or maybe an empennage part is complete, or perhaps even nothing.

There's no airworthiness certificate associated with it, so it could be in virtually ANY stage of design and/or completion, right?

rvmills 03-30-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 644944)
Honestly, I think we jumped the gun a little and caught the mother ship in their own joke! I think the joke is on us :eek:

They must me splitting a gut by now.

I keep asking Shadey what the pool is at now for how long this thread gets :D...

...but he aint sayin' ;).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 645005)
For the nth time - it's a registered airplane, not an n-number reservation.

Jaime, so is 214VA it's "nth" number? :p

Just jokin' around...interest is piqued as well...still have popcorn left...;)

Cheers,
Bob

rockwoodrv9 03-30-2012 11:04 PM

not N-Number reservation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 645005)
For the nth time - it's a registered airplane, not an n-number reservation.

You are correct that it isn't an N Number reservation, but are you sure it is a complete, registered airplane? There is no engine manufacture or engine serial number. I was unaware that you could register an airplane without that information. What is checked to see if it is airworthy? I believe there would be additional information available other then the generic info on the N Number registry if it were a completed aircraft.

I looked at the bottom of the form and it included the following:

The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the airworthiness of an aircraft or the current aircraft configuration. For specific information, you may request a copy of the aircraft record at Http://aircraft.faa.gov/e.gov/ND/airrecordsND.asp

If you want a copy of the record, that's the link. I would rather just have fun wondering.

Mike S 03-30-2012 11:25 PM

OK, I will make a guess

RV12 with air cooled engine-----Jabiru, Lyc 233, UL Power etc.

Av8torTom 03-31-2012 06:27 AM

New wings
 
My guess is a set of soaring wings for the 12 making it a motor glider. *shrugs*

WAM120RV 03-31-2012 11:03 AM

Hershey Bar wings
 
No, your all wrong.

Van got upset about the Hershey bar wing comments and has done a tapered wing design, or elliptical.

I like Hershey bar wings, well I don't mind them........ but a taper wing or elliptical wing design would be fantastic.

:D

E. D. Eliot 03-31-2012 11:53 AM

My guess
 
RV-12 'follow on design. LSA or EAB. American engine - tandem seating - tail dragger or 'A' model. Fuel in the wings. I'd like to see Catto three blade prop as standard equipment. Capable of 'gentlemans aerobatics'.

LAMPSguy 03-31-2012 03:08 PM

Helicopter
 
Helicopter with pusher prop to compete with Sikorsky.

rvator51 03-31-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottSchmidt (Post 645300)
Has anyone just asked Van's at their booth, at the forum, in an e-mail, by carrier bird, with smoke signals, using morris code?

Hi Scott,
Look at post 16 from the below thread at 5am this morning. Think it answers your question.

What did Van's have to say at Sun 'n Fun this morning?

Scott edit: Yup, missed that post before posting here, so I deleted it. Sounds like they have something up their sleeves.

warren hurd 04-02-2012 02:42 PM

8, 9, 10...
 
How about a RV8 fuselage with two sets of RV9 wings, and a RV10 tail?

A Vans Biplane:D

JK1 04-03-2012 08:28 AM

You will all be suprised!!
 
Yes it is an aircraft;
Yes it has an engine;

DaAV8R 04-03-2012 09:10 AM

I ordered one
 
I had a little fun with the Van's gal yesterday. I'm not sure who it was. Is there an Anna there? It wasn't Barb.

Me: I need these replacement parts and you probably ought to throw in a calendar.
Her: OK, anything else. We'll ship priority mail, etc., etc.
Me: Nope, thats it......................Oh ya, I almost forgot, I would like to order a RV-14A
Her:
Me: Hello? :D
Her: Um, that's not on the order form
Me: I didn't see it on the online order form either, figured I needed to call it in.
Her: You can't order anything that isn't on the form.
Me: Well OK, but tell the guys that someone called in and tried to order a RV-14A.

I thought it was funny. I hope the folks at Van's got a laugh out of it especially considering it may not even exist

johnny stick 04-03-2012 09:15 AM

Date of notice
 
Is there a date when it will be announced? Obviously it isn't april 1.

kbehrent 04-03-2012 09:21 AM

If there is to be an announcement, I would bet it will happen at Oshkosh given the importance to Van this year. I also wouldn't be surprised if a weird looking airplane doesn't show up at the the Arlington Fly-in in early july as Van's always attends since it is so close to the factory and would be a nice little cross country trip for it.

Shockwave 04-03-2012 04:58 PM

-14A? Seats 2? It's going to have swing wings. And be carrier qualified. :D

Michael White 04-03-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shockwave (Post 646198)
-14A? Seats 2? It's going to have swing wings. And be carrier qualified. :D

Yeah, baby! Woo Hoo!!! :D

johnny stick 04-03-2012 06:57 PM

quick build
 
Only 20,000 hours to build and using two graveyard engines... oh and a carrier to launch.

Wesael 04-03-2012 08:31 PM

14a
 
6 place, turbine, pressurized, 290-320 knot cruise, standard vans short field take off and landing rolls, $200,000 range completed cost.

robertahegy 04-04-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesael (Post 646279)
6 place, turbine, pressurized, 290-320 knot cruise, standard vans short field take off and landing rolls, $200,000 range completed cost.

That would be quite a bargain!!! Sign me up!!!

Roberta:D:D:D:D

pilotian 04-04-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesael (Post 646279)
6 place, turbine, pressurized, 290-320 knot cruise, standard vans short field take off and landing rolls, $200,000 range completed cost.

I'll take 2....

QB fuselage though please!

cwilkins 04-04-2012 04:49 PM

6 Seat RV-14A
 
RV-14A... Maybe a 6 seat kit??? That would be great for those of us with more than 2 kids.

pilotian 04-04-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwilkins (Post 646520)
RV-14A... Maybe a 6 seat kit??? That would be great for those of us with more than 2 kids.

That's what a (Cessna) caravan is for ;)

vlittle 04-05-2012 04:02 PM

Is it just an optical illusion, but is the home page picture on Van's site a new airplane design?

To me, it looks like an RV-8 with high aspect ratio wings (like an RV-9). Is this the tail dragger version of the legendary RV-14A?

Go look...

rv7boy 04-05-2012 04:25 PM

Which photo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vlittle (Post 646885)
Is it just an optical illusion, but is the home page picture on Van's site a new airplane design?

To me, it looks like an RV-8 with high aspect ratio wings (like an RV-9). Is this the tail dragger version of the legendary RV-14A?

Go look...

Huh? :confused:

I see an RV-8 at the top, then four smaller photos across, namely, RV-3, RV-7A, RV-8A and RV-10.

That burgundy, or dark red, airplane in a steep bank is an RV-8 and the photo was made a long time ago over the coast of either Washington or Oregon.

Which photo are you talking about?

vlittle 04-05-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rv7boy (Post 646899)
Huh? :confused:

I see an RV-8 at the top, then four smaller photos across, namely, RV-3, RV-7A, RV-8A and RV-10.

That burgundy, or dark red, airplane in a steep bank is an RV-8 and the photo was made a long time ago over the coast of either Washington or Oregon.

Which photo are you talking about?

The big picture... it must just be the camera angle, but the wings look quite long. Maybe it's my paranoia. Makes no sense to have a tandem non-aerobatic a/c.

Michael White 04-05-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vlittle (Post 646914)
The big picture... it must just be the camera angle, but the wings look quite long. Maybe it's my paranoia. Makes no sense to have a tandem non-aerobatic a/c.

Vern,
That's Paul Schattauer's 8. It is a standard build 8, so it's just the camera angle that's messing with you.

Best,

N546RV 04-06-2012 08:31 AM

Who wants to bet Van's just registered a sudden influx of traffic to the web site from all of us checking the home page?

:D

drycreek 04-06-2012 08:45 AM

Yeah, the picture was last modified January of '09. I don't think they would keep anything under wraps for that long.

tomwebster 06-01-2012 12:04 PM

Lane Wallace mentioned a new design hidden
away in the prototype shop in her June-2012
Sport Aviation article on Van and his company.
No more information mentioned.
The June issue is on-line now at the EAA web site.
Tom

DaveLS 06-20-2012 11:08 PM

Intermediate Acro
 
SOME THOUGHT FROM THE UGLY CORNER OF LOWER ALABAMA (UCLA)

After a few beers this evening the following became clear:

Intermediate Acro Trainer
+8 / -6 Spin/Snap Roll approved
Tandem two place, uses modified 8 fuselage, fits real people
Symetric airfoil
Tapered planform wing
Square wingtips with fence
Full span control surfaces with spades for boost
Droop for flaps, as the RV-12
Externally braced tail surfaces
Large rudder
Usual Lycoming options
Ballistic whole aircraft parachute?

Just saying, Dave

FresnoR 06-21-2012 12:40 PM

Oh Yeah, OSH is coming, let the rumor mill start back up. Let me be the first to say:


"I heard through my ex-roommate's Cousin's brother-in-law that he overheard a guy in the airport diner talking about Vans introducing the RV-14 at OSH 2012 this year!"

Mel 06-21-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FresnoR (Post 671653)
"I heard through my ex-roommate's Cousin's brother-in-law that he overheard a guy in the airport diner talking about Vans introducing the RV-14 at OSH 2012 this year!"

I heard through the same source. It MUST be true!

When I was in the Air Force, we were told, "If you haven't hear a rumor by 10 am, start one."

The whole time I was in there, I never got to start one.

Neal@F14 06-21-2012 01:56 PM

My guess...
 
My guess is the RV-14 is going to be a tandem seating LSA, with lots of things coming from the RV-12 such as all pre-punched, pop-rivet construction, removable wings, stabilator on the tail, etc, with a taildragger option (RV-14) and tricycle option (RV-14A) and maybe engine options other than Rotax.

robertahegy 06-22-2012 05:56 AM

It's an "autoboteli":D:D

Roberta:p:p:p


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