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f1rocket 07-24-2012 10:06 AM

The way I see it, you get 6 knots over a -6 for a whole lot of money, RV-10 money (less engine). It's a beautiful airplane and will appeal to new buyers but I don't see a lot of people dumping their -6's and -7's for one. Now the -9 is another thing all together. I never saw the logic in that one.

fl-mike 07-24-2012 10:40 AM

Oh well, Van has never been accused of being revolutionary. I guess bigger folks have bigger wallets.

My hopes for a tapered wing 8 are dashed...for now. Build on!

Now the 7/9 builders can rib the spoiled 14 builders about how they had to cut and fit the canopy and fabricate a fairing. But, the 3/4/6 ore smelting builders still hold the high ground!

TX7A 07-24-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fl-mike (Post 683043)
But, the 3/4/6 ore smelting builders still hold the high ground!

Now that right there is funny! :D

Kram 07-24-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1rocket (Post 683032)
The way I see it, you get 6 knots over a -6 for a whole lot of money, RV-10 money (less engine). It's a beautiful airplane and will appeal to new buyers but I don't see a lot of people dumping their -6's and -7's for one. Now the -9 is another thing all together. I never saw the logic in that one.

The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.

LifeofReiley 07-24-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kram (Post 683062)
The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.

Ummm... I don't think so, full the 7 carries 42 gallons to the 9 carrying 38.

pmccoy 07-24-2012 12:26 PM

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The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.
I am building a 9A based on the low stall/landing speed. I have no desire for aerobatics, and I am a low time pilot. Starting building a 9A with only 82 hours on my ticket. Seems the proper choice for my mission statement. Now, 6.5 years later, I can't wait to get in the air. Almost done.

I see the 14 as a nice alternative to build faster based on lessons learned over the years. If I were starting today it would be a hard decision.

flyboy1963 07-24-2012 12:27 PM

...longest most viewed thread this decade??? :-)
 
...oh, I might as well chime in!
poor Van's, they will get nothing but (well intentioned) armchair quarterbacking on this one!
My first thoughts were;
gee, they beefed up a -9 wing and put it on a 7!?!?......but not quite.
I like all of the 'improvements', and I'm sure a lot of builders will go for it, but if it's not just a 7/9 fuselage, I think they really missed the chance to make it wider. I'm not a big guy, so the leg and headroom is ok, but gee, could really use some wiggle room side to side!

I am curious about the speed, if the canopy is just popped up a few inches, does that really equate to plain ol' frontal area drag?

..no, nothing is ever simple is it?

my last thought; perhaps this thing is headed for certification?..or is Van way to smart for that !! :)

William Slaughter 07-24-2012 12:43 PM

How wide does it need to be?
 
According to the spec sheet, it is 3" wider than a 7, and only 2" shy of being as wide as a 10. Of course as an 8 builder, anything over two feet wide* just seems excessive to me. :D

* Shoulder width at the pilots seat, per Van's spec sheet.

Flying Scotsman 07-24-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by William Slaughter (Post 683076)
How wide does it need to be?

Are you kidding? Have you been to the mall lately and seen the average size of people now?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

Not good. Maybe Van's really IS onto something here.

I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.

kentb 07-24-2012 01:12 PM

Whooo.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Scotsman (Post 683078)
I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.

And the side-by-side version will be even wider. :D

Kent


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