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paul mosher 07-23-2012 08:50 PM

Slower
 
What? A slower VNE? I would be really unhappy with my 7 if the 14's VNE was 300. .

pilottangocharlie 07-23-2012 09:24 PM

In regard to the higher kit price. I will be interested to see how much more comes with each kit (wiring harnesses, electrical components, and so on). That could explain quite a bit of the price difference.

bhassel 07-23-2012 09:29 PM

Yeah, I don't think you can compare the 14 to a 7 or 9 in terms of the kit and cost. It'll be more like the 12 in that reguard.

Bob

KTM520guy 07-23-2012 10:01 PM

The 14 will have it's market just as the 7 does. If you don't like one buy the other or do the correct thing and get an 8 :)

rgmwa 07-23-2012 10:03 PM

Definitely an impressive design. I assume they see a good market for it, but given the general state of the world economy and aviation generally, it's not the direction I thought Vans would go - more weight, more power, more cost, more complexity, but offset by greater modularity and integration.

It will be interesting to see how well it sells. I'm happy though - unlike all you -6,-7 and -9 drivers, my RV-12 still has no competition in the Van's lineup (except maybe for the improved view out of the window) :D

johnny stick 07-23-2012 10:15 PM

Experimental engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBaier (Post 682832)
If I were making the choice today, I think I'd be sensitive to the pending petition relative to recreational flying on a drivers license. I don't think this airplane would do as well if you dropped back 30hp to make the limit.

So, I'd still be choosing between 160hp -9 or 180hp -7. As it came out (-7), it's difficult to imagine a better flying airplane.

It's a good looking airplane and I'm sure it will do well.

Dan

Well from what I understand, if you use an experimental engine you can name it anything you want, like an ACME 150, and rate the horsepower at anything you want, like 150 hp max continuous at 2200 RPM. Right?

Captain Avgas 07-23-2012 10:43 PM

Builders will buy the RV14A over the RV7A just to get the improved nose gear. I certainly would.

RV7A builders/flyers are so twitchy and nervous about the failure rate of the existing nose gear design that they have already spent over a half a million dollars buying a third party brace device that no-one can be certain really works (at this early stage).

Vans wont sell too many more RV7As.

Sad for me....I've been superceded even before I get into the air. :(

tjo 07-23-2012 10:46 PM

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am kind of surprised at anything negative that is being said. I think the market is fairly obvious. The 6, 7, 8 are all single person aerobatic machines, for the most part, with your typical modern pilot in mind. The 14 looks to me to be a true two passenger aerobatic machine. You pays your money and makes your choice, simple as that. As for me, I went with a 9, but I can definitely see the benefit in a 14. Heck with the aerobatic weight capacity it has, maybe you could go with a single pilot, decent fuel load, and add weapons systems.

Just sayin'

Tim

Kobwo 07-24-2012 01:48 AM

This new model sits very well with me. I'm almost 6'4" and 220lbs. Not fat, just big. There are a lot of people out here that struggle with the, "will it fit?" question. Several buddies would like to build but none of the models except the -10 fits. I started a -7 knowing that it would always be tight after having sat in one. It would have made the long legs almost impossible for me. So, I decided to go for an -8, hoping that it would fit better. It does but just a bit and my wife has to sit in the back. Not necessarily a bad thing for me but she sees it differently, in a tolerable way. Which means she'd probably fly less often. This hits the nail on the head for me at least. I wonder though, can I economically go with the IO-375? The 205hp version would be close to the 390 and at about 10k cheaper to boot. Also, the spec sheet article states "basic aerobatics," will it perform the same acro as a -7 or -8? And lastly, a tail wheel is a must!

Thanks Vans!

gasman 07-24-2012 03:56 AM

I think the 14 would still perform honorably with an O360. And with a touch from Lycon, would only be short 10 hp for a LOT less $$.


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