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pauldan181 08-31-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSwayze (Post 573157)
Cleaveland Tools sells an inexpensive lightweight hose kit, for the last 10 feet of your hose assembly. It's so nice, you don't even feel like you're dragging a hose around.

Also on the end of this lightweight hose put on one of the swivels.




Paul Danclovic
Jamestown NC
RV-8A N181SB

rv7boy 09-01-2011 09:28 AM

Yes for Cleaveland Aircraft Tools Air Hose
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BSwayze (Post 573157)
...Cleaveland Tools sells an inexpensive lightweight hose kit, for the last 10 feet of your hose assembly. It's so nice, you don't even feel like you're dragging a hose around. I can't imagine building an airplane without either of these items.

Yes...YES...I love my Cleaveland air hose, so much that I have two of them, one for each side of my shop. They are made in the USA plus you can order them in lengths other than the standard 10 feet. The fittings are not standard so you have to be committed to using this hose or else install an extra outlet in your piping. No Bigee.

This hose is SO MUCH BETTER than those stupid yellow coiled hoses you get at Home Depot or Lowe's.

The Cleaveland hose plus my Sioux air drill (I have two) makes for pleasant drilling. :D

Rick6a 09-01-2011 10:45 AM

Cordless Yay Air Drill Nay
 
I would argue that a (pistol grip type) air drill is not necessary. On my day job at McDonnell-Douglas, I HAD to use an air drill for aircraft production work so you could say I am extremely familiar with its use. Even though I have an air drill in my personal tool box, I built both my RV's using a cordless drill almost exclusively. The only exception to that rule was when a right angle drill motor was necessary to reach difficult to access areas. Among its notable advantages, a cordless drill is far quieter and waaay easier on your compressor too. Here is an inexpensive example I bought several years ago, built the -8 with it and amazingly it still continues to function to this day:

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...rdless+Sam%27s

rapid_ascent 09-01-2011 01:53 PM

I like having the small palm air drill. I too bought the cleaveland air hose and their quick change chuck. The quick change chuck is very nice. It may not be as precise as a standard chuck but you can change bits in about 5 seconds. Some people use two drills to not need to swap bits, but this solution works well for me. I didn't buy there full quick change kit just the adapters for #40, #30, and my original chuck. I'll buy some more adapters next time I buy some other tools from them. These are great time savers.

I purchased a lower cost Taylor drill and to be truthful I'm not sure I made the right decision trying to save those $$$. The drill works well but the trigger is stiff for the initial portion of the trigger press so it is sometimes hard to start holes. I'm considering buying a replacement drill at some point, probably a Sioux 1412 which is around $200. If you can try out the drill first and keep in mind the drill starting issue I mentioned.

clevtool 09-01-2011 04:08 PM

Thanks for the Kudos guys!!! Now that I am authorized to post links again I will throw some out there.

The hose kit can be found here: http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/p...p?number=ACKIT

It takes about a pound off of your tool compared to the heavy coupler and standard air hose. I prefer to have a hose run to the bottom of my worktable and have a manifold with several lightweight hoses coming off of it. I like to have a drill, blowgun, and either rivet gun or squeezer plugged in all at the same time. We kitted this option here:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/p...umber=ACDLXKIT

The Sioux drill previously mentioned can be found here:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/p...p?number=ADS12

I know that you can save a few bucks ordering elsewhere but please consider that we are a 4 man show here, interested in serving the home builder. This is the only market we are in, the only one we want to be in. We are as fair as we can with prices, provide top quality tools, and provide unlimited free builder support. But we don't buy 100's at a time and can't sell them for the same price as those that do. With that said, I used to tell people that this drill (Sioux 1412) was the best drill I have ever held in my hand. That is no longer true for two reasons. First Sioux now has the same body style drill in a 6000 rpm version found here:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/p...p?number=ADS16

Super nice to have nearly twice the speed.
Second is the Nova version. They have blatently copied Sioux and done a very good job at it. The Nova drill feels just as nice as the Sioux for a lot less money. Personally buying American is the right thing to do, but at $80 off the Nova is hard to pass up, the version we sell is 4000rpm. We only sell what we would use, and we have seen no reason to choose the lower RPM version. The Nova drill is found here:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/p...?number=ADP310

rv9aviator 09-01-2011 04:48 PM

I bought the Sioux mini palm air drill when I started my kit 7 years ago and wouldn't be without it. The lightweight hoses are a must in my opinion. I also have a small Dewalt lightweight cordless drill driver that is wonderful as well.

LifeofReiley 09-01-2011 05:03 PM

I use both, there are many places the cordless will not fit... but then again, there are also some places my small air drill will not fit. So, you'll need a 90 degree angle drill too. :D

N282S 09-02-2011 04:59 AM

Yip
 
Get the air drill. A sioux drill. It's a tool. It works great and here's the best part, it looks great in your tool box. In fact, sometimes I just leave it on the work bench. :D


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