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RV6_flyer 07-07-2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalinHdz (Post 556630)
AFAIK the airplane mode does NOT disable the GPS in the 3G models. The iPad uses the 3G to make initial GPS position calculation faster but it has a completely independent real GPS chip built in so it does not need the 3G to work.

I fly a lot with my 3G iPad 1 and always use the airplane mode since it seems to access the data faster that way. :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by w1curtis (Post 556684)
I think you should verify that. Even the current version of Foreflight will prompt you to turn off Airplane mode when you start it with Airplane mode turned on.

The iPad/iPhone GPS engine is part of the 3G chipset and Airplane Mode is a big switch that shuts it all (3G/GPS & WiFi) down. Yes it is a "real" GPS but still part of the 3G chipset. I think all the discussions about WiFi positioning, A-GPS verses "real" GPS has got you turned around. If it was completely independent, there would be a GPS in the WiFi only iPad.

--- snip ---

I just checked my iPad 2. I went to Airplane Mode (standing outside my hangar) and it LOST GPS position. I got a NO GPS FIX in ForeFlight.

mrreddick 07-08-2011 06:53 AM

Foreflight vs Wing X Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N787TR (Post 556650)
I've been comparing WingX to Foreflight and noticed that Foreflight does not locate TFR's on the charts. WingX does locate TFR's on their charts and I have found this to be immensely helpful. Is this truly the way Foreflight operates or is there a way to display TFR's?

Todd,

I used Foreflight for only 30 days. The big feature that FF had was being able to rubber band your route. TFR's are located in a tab across the bottom, you have to scroll thru states to find any in your state but it won't appear on your moving map.
Wing X Pro has TFRs on the moving map and now, with the latest update, you can also rubber band your route course line.

brian 07-08-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreddick (Post 556874)
Todd,

I used Foreflight for only 30 days. The big feature that FF had was being able to rubber band your route. TFR's are located in a tab across the bottom, you have to scroll thru states to find any in your state but it won't appear on your moving map.
Wing X Pro has TFRs on the moving map and now, with the latest update, you can also rubber band your route course line.

Can you please explain what is meant by the verb to "rubber band"? I have tried both FF and WingX, and I greatly preferred WingX. But I don't know this term.
brian

RV6_flyer 07-08-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian (Post 557030)
Can you please explain what is meant by the verb to "rubber band"? I have tried both FF and WingX, and I greatly preferred WingX. But I don't know this term.
brian

If you enter a flight from any airport to any airport.

For example: KCCB KAPV
ForeFlight draws a line on the map from KCCB to KAPV. Now place your finger on the line and drag the line to L26. That is the "Rubber Band" and just added L26 as a waypoint on the way from KCCB to KAPV.

humptybump 07-09-2011 05:12 AM

I use the "rubber band" flight planning feature nearly every trip. Then again, I'm flying VFR so I have a bit more flexibility than an IFR trip.

I typically enter my departure and arrival airports. Next I zoom out to see if I will have conflicts with class B airspace, MOAs, etc. I look for near by Jacques and airports I dan use as waypoints to avoid the worst of the airspace issues. Finally, I press and hold my finger on the track line nearest where I want to change my flight path. FF will change the line color and I can drag that part of the line to the intermediate waypoint. FF lists the closest choices and I pick th one I mean. FF then inserts it into my plan. It will also let you use an arbitrary point if you wish.

I looked at WinhX Pro about 6 months ago. I've not looked recently. I also looked at Garmin's Pilot-my-Cast. The Garmin offering had some nice features.

brian 07-11-2011 10:56 AM

Thanks for the "rubber banding" info. It's pretty cool, although it doesn't do it on my WingX. All WingX does is move the map when I do that.

I can add any airport with WingX by tapping on on the hot spot for each airport. If I want to add a VFR waypoint or checkpoint, I have to type it in manually in the route list.

FF does have some cool things better than WingX, like being able to add any point at all (user-defined lat/lon) to a route, but overall I'm still preferring WingX. I'm currently using both. I have the Garmin app also, but I used it a bit & didn't find it very intuitive or easy to use. Probably with more time practicing with it and getting to know their symbology, instead of named button labels, it might seem better.

Chunk 07-11-2011 10:48 PM

FF bug
 
During Obama's last trip to Miami, I was getting ready to go fly and wanted to check out the presidential TFR that I knew was in effect. Foreflight did not have the TFR listed. I sent them an email and they acknowledged a bug, asked a few questions, and promptly never got back to me about the cause or any potential fix.

It's a great product, but a call to FSS is cheap insurance for your ticket!

Chunk

Scrabo 07-11-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian (Post 557499)
Thanks for the "rubber banding" info. It's pretty cool, although it doesn't do it on my WingX. All WingX does is move the map when I do that.
.

You need version 5.2 installed

craigvince 07-12-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerosport1 (Post 556648)
This might be a good time to start this discussion about using the Ipad
for approach charts. A friend was doing a IFR check ride in a Cirrus
and was doing his final approach and the examiner took his Ipad and turned it off and then put it in the back seat. He then asked him were was his backup paper charts. He had none. The instructor then asked him were was the nearest VFR weather he did not know. He was under the hood. He did not pass. The examiner said that you still need to carry paper with you to be legal.
This has been a big discussion at my airport the last month.
Also another friend had lunch with one of our local FAA people and they said
that for IFR to be legal you must have either 2 Ipads or charts available
in your PFD display. This was for part 91 not 135 they were talking about.
They say you still need to have the paper back-up or 2 EFB.

FWIW
Geoff

The examiner was wrong. It happens.

vjdslk 07-22-2011 10:36 PM

How do you download?
 
Group,

I just installed the trial version of Foreflight and can't figure out how to download charts or plates. I went into the download manager and anything I select pops up a note stating i need to purchase a plan. I have created an account and signed in, but it still says i need to purchase a plan. How do you download charts in the trial version?

Thanks!


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