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Charles in SC 01-03-2011 04:39 PM

Wire securement question
 
I need to run wires to the rear of the fuse and am looking for ideas on how to secure them. The ways that are presenting themselves at this time are in no particular order:

1 Drill holes in the in the horozontal part of a longeron and attach to that.

2 Drill holes and attach to one of the stringers.

3 Tie to the elevator trim cable. I have manual trim.

4 Just lay them loose in the floor.

Any other ideas or thoughts are welcome.
Thanks!

erich weaver 01-03-2011 05:07 PM

I used zip ties along with the little plastic base plates for attachment points that you can get at any hardware store. Peel off the stickback stuff that comes on the baseplates and glue down with shoe goo or equivalent and they wont come off.

erich

John Courte 01-03-2011 05:09 PM

I'm going to wrap them all in spiral wrap and use the sticky-backed bases that use wire ties. If they come loose, i'll remove the adhesive backing and use proseal. I'm trying to avoid putting holes in my longerons, but I wish I'd discovered the sticky-backed things before I secured the static line to the left longeron with cable clamps and pop rivets.

rzbill 01-03-2011 08:09 PM

Try this old school method
 
I decided I did not want to rely on adhesives and also wanted to be able to take a wire out without having to cut the end connector off (as you would with snap bushings). Went the old style way. I had a handful of right angle 8-32 nutplates (AN1033) that made it pretty easy.


vlittle 01-03-2011 11:31 PM

Here's an example of the tie-wrap base:



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Bob Axsom 01-04-2011 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzbill (Post 500252)
I decided I did not want to rely on adhesives and also wanted to be able to take a wire out without having to cut the end connector off (as you would with snap bushings). Went the old style way. I had a handful of right angle 8-32 nutplates (AN1033) that made it pretty easy.


Oh my, this is beautiful. I used the same string tie, angle bracket, #8 fastener hardware and MS21919DG clamp method with different routing.

Bob Axsom

rv8ch 01-04-2011 01:42 AM

adel clamps
 
I also used Adel clamps - it was fun getting in there installing them, but I know they won't come off. I tried some plastic things with sticky tape on them and prepared the surface well, and some continued to stick, and some came off. I lost confidence in them, and I don't want anything coming loose back there.

Richard Connell 01-04-2011 03:05 AM

The ty-wrap bases are useless with the supplied peel back adhesive.
Mine all came unstuck too.
I went with a similar base, but used 3M VHB double sided tape to stick it down.
That stuff will never let go.

az_gila 01-04-2011 09:41 AM

These work well - use the #6 size with a LP4-3 pop rivet.



http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...tiemounts1.php

No need to rely on sticky pads that fail in hot temperatures.

JonJay 01-04-2011 11:15 AM

I will second this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by az_gila (Post 500396)
These work well - use the #6 size with a LP4-3 pop rivet.



http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...tiemounts1.php

No need to rely on sticky pads that fail in hot temperatures.

They work very well. I used a #8 screw and nylon lock nut but that is probably overkill. I didnt think to pop rivet and would do that if I was going to do this again.

Jekyll 01-04-2011 08:29 PM

As others have said, the sticky back bases don't stick long. Use non-sticky bases and affix with E-6000.

David_Nelson 01-05-2011 06:01 AM

Tip - Removing the sticky adhesive
 
I've found that soaking a handful of these nylon anchors in lacquer thinner for a couple of minutes seems to work best at removing the sticky tape. After soaking, grab a corner and peel the tape off and discard, dunk the anchor once more to remove any left over adhesive, then wipe dry.

I have tried acetone, mineral spirits, rubbing alcohol, lighter fluid, razor blades, and physically heating the anchor with varying amount of success (or failure). I don't recall trying out MEK. What else have you all found that works well?

Like others have mentioned, I've had good success w/ E-6000 industrial adhesive. I used to have difficulty finding it but later discovered that "Academy Sports and Outdoors" carried it in the marine/fishing section (IIRC).

Brantel 01-05-2011 06:41 AM

Walmart also carries E-6000 it is over in the craft/sewing department.


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