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Jamie 01-27-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beav (Post 400608)
Btw, I'm on the team at Apple that makes the iPhone/iPad, so I've been using my iPad for over a year. Let me know if I can answer any other questions.

Yep, I think we have people here that have done a little of everything!

* Any idea on the brightness of the screen? Doesn't seem to be listed on the Tech Specs on the site. Sun-light readability is definitely a huge factor in the bubble-canopied RV and I think this is where the less pretty "eInk" screens such as the Kindle really (pardon the expression) shine.

* Also, does the (confusingly-named) iBook feature support PDFs? Would be interesting for us loading up approach plates, etc.

* Any word on eventual Flash support? Yeah, I hate Flash and wish it would disappear off the face of the Earth but unfortunately there are a lot of websites were it's needed (the Trutrak website, for example).

Also Jason it looks like you guys did a great job, as always.

I have to admit, being a huge gadget guy myself (yes, I have a 3GS) I was a little skeptical at first but then as the presentation progressed I was more and more impressed. I can definitely imagine that thing sitting on the end table beside my chair..or riding next to me in my RV.

rvaitor 01-27-2010 08:14 PM

GPS / Aviation add-ons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beav (Post 400608)
The iPhone 3G and 3GS as well as the iPad 3G all contain a real GPS receiver that works just fine outside of cellular coverage areas (though the Maps application obviously can't retrieve map images from Google in such a situation). An app that cached map data locally would work just fine though.

Btw, I'm on the team at Apple that makes the iPhone/iPad, so I've been using my iPad for over a year. Let me know if I can answer any other questions.

Keep us posted on Apple related developments with this thing. With the iPad 3G does that mean you have to contract with AT&T or anyone else for service? I've been looking at some of the add on GPSs( http://gpscradle.dualav.com/cradle.html ) for my iTouch for GPS capability as well.

jeff beckley 01-27-2010 09:02 PM

Jason so you are a foreflight user. You have a chance to use the app on your demo?

the_other_dougreeves 01-27-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beav (Post 400651)
> Any word on eventual Flash support? Yeah, I hate Flash and wish it would disappear off the face of the Earth but
> unfortunately there are a lot of websites were it's needed (the Trutrak website, for example).

I can't say anything about this.

I don't think you need to say anything more. :)

I think the iPad as the possibility of being a good EFB, but it will take an app for that (sorry, had to). The hardware and OS look great.

TODR

glider 01-27-2010 09:50 PM

Shameless plug but have you tried SkyCharts ?
It will definitely support iPad natively when you can actually buy one.

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Originally Posted by rjtjrt (Post 400627)
Basic "need" is ability to display Sectional or IFR/approach maps with Gps position and track up. Also should display of Gnd Speed, track, distance, etc at same time as map.
I wonder if the display on iPAD will be bright enough for sunlight in glasshouse cockpit (I read somewhere else need 800 nits).
A program like Oziexplorer or Fugawi that would run on iPAD with Sectionals or IFR maps would be good.
John


SteinAir 01-27-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beav (Post 400608)
The iPhone 3G and 3GS as well as the iPad 3G all contain a real GPS receiver that works just fine outside of cellular coverage areas (though the Maps application obviously can't retrieve map images from Google in such a situation). An app that cached map data locally would work just fine though.

So...there is a GPS receiver in my Iphone, but it's useless as shipped (if I'm outside cellular coverage....which is quite often with ATT)?? What app should I get that will allow my GPS on my Iphone to work outside of cellular tower coverage? Thread creep I know, bit I am a lover of my Iphone with Foreflight and am waiting to see a pad in person! :)

Cheers,
Stein

Snowflake 01-27-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beav (Post 400648)
> Can the non-3G version tether to an iPhone over 3G?

Although the OS supports tethering, this would require carrier deals to enable. Personally, I've had my laptop tethered through my iPhone for the last six months or so and the experience is completely seamless.

I may have worded that poorly... What I meant to ask was, can the iPad connect to an iPhone via bluetooth, and the iPhone connect to the 3G network, and that way use the iPhone's 3G networking to provide network services to the iPad. Just like you do with your laptop now. My iPhone3G is tethering-enabled, and I do the same thing you do with your laptop, i'm just wondering if i'll be able to do that with the iPad or whether i'll have to buy an iPad with 3G.

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> Multitasking? and before you answer this, the follow-up question: Why not?
...Basically, you've put the user in charge of managing when apps start and stop. The end result for most users is that lots of apps end up running all the time which degrades system performance and kills battery life.
That I understand. If you can provide feedback to the dev team, i'd suggest this: My jailbroken iPhone runs the apps Backgrounder and ProSwitcher. I do notice that if I leave apps in the background, that my battery life suffers. At times, I am willing to live with that. When i'm not, I manually close the apps I don't want. However, at least so far, I haven't noticed a performance hit. Maybe i'm not running anything really difficult in the background.

Perhaps there could be a way to make this a user-selectable thing... Kind of like the brightness. You could choose to have the OS manage the apps, or choose to manually close things when you're done. An "advanced settings" page or something. Unfortunately this probably goes against Steve's philosophy for the product, so we'll just have to wait for someone to jailbreak the iPad. :)

Thanks for answering some questions (and not answering the ones you can't talk about). It's nice to know that there's someone around who knows about the internals a bit.

To whoever asked about PDF's, I don't know if iBook can read them but the iPhone can read PDF's just fine if you get them in an email. I know I have an app that displays PDF's but I forget the name and the phone isn't handy right now... I think I had to start the app, and then download the PDF from within the app, but it did work.

KirkGrovesRV8 01-27-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beav (Post 400664)
> Jason so you are a foreflight user. You have a chance to use the app on your demo?

I think I've run it once, but only to see if it works. Since I haven't been able to take my iPad out of the building, I'm never near it when I decide to fly.

Hey Jason
First off I love my iphone:D and am sure I will end up with a iPad.... quick question will you be able to download picture from your camera right too the iPad?? or will it need to go thru iPhoto first?
Thanks
I am just thinking besides IAP and the such how nice will it be to load pics from flying trips and post them right away...way cool

rocketbob 01-27-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the_other_dougreeves (Post 400676)
I don't think you need to say anything more. :)

I think the iPad as the possibility of being a good EFB, but it will take an app for that (sorry, had to). The hardware and OS look great.

TODR

Allowing Flash content would essentially allow developers to circumvent the app store. I'll be very surprised if Flash is ever supported on the iPhone.

wil 01-27-2010 11:12 PM

Jason- it would really be nice if the Camera Connection Kit provided an additional dongle that allowed a CF card slot to pull the images directly. I know the USB cord could be used directly from the camera, but I need to keep using the camera while an assistant backs up the CF card. Most pro level cameras still use CF cards.


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