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jcarne 07-15-2020 03:59 PM

registration questions
 
Okay, apparently I'm an idiot with a search tool today.

Is there anything else I need for aircraft registration other than 8050-1, bill of sale from Vans, and the $5 fee?

Also, I know inspection stuff has moved online but is registration still done by paper?

Lastly, does any of this paper work need to be fancy stuff from an FSDO that has carbon copies and such or will the online version I found be okay to just print out?

Thanks!!!

RV10Pilot 07-15-2020 04:59 PM

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...uilt_aircraft/

wjb 07-15-2020 08:57 PM

Easy!
 
You need a 8050-1 Application and 8050-2 Bill of Sale, which you get by requesting a copy from Van's. Once I sent it in, w/ the $5 fee, I only took a few days to get it all done.

Not part of my calculation, but if you do this, you get on the radar for your state tax board ... they want their pound of flesh (or at least pound of wallet). CA hasn't approached me in last two years .. maybe they are pro GA? (hahaha; no)

jcarne 07-15-2020 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV10Pilot (Post 1446707)

Thanks for the link, apparently I'm just that bad at googling things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjb (Post 1446777)
You need a 8050-1 Application and 8050-2 Bill of Sale, which you get by requesting a copy from Van's. Once I sent it in, w/ the $5 fee, I only took a few days to get it all done.

Not part of my calculation, but if you do this, you get on the radar for your state tax board ... they want their pound of flesh (or at least pound of wallet). CA hasn't approached me in last two years .. maybe they are pro GA? (hahaha; no)

Awesome thanks! Did you also send the 8050-88 that the link above lists?

Hope you dodged the tax bullet, but probably not... haha

BobTurner 07-15-2020 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjb (Post 1446777)
Not part of my calculation, but if you do this, you get on the radar for your state tax board ... they want their pound of flesh (or at least pound of wallet). CA hasn't approached me in last two years .. maybe they are pro GA? (hahaha; no)

You can count on hearing from both the state (sales tax) and the county (property tax). Sales tax (actually use tax) was due the April 15 of the year after you bought anything. Property tax is due end of August, in the year following your a/w certification. If you rent a hangar from the county you should already be getting a property tax bill on that. The state is pretty aggressive in getting their money, and there are penalties for late payments.

wjb 07-16-2020 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcarne (Post 1446781)
Did you also send the 8050-88 that the link above lists?

Just checked my reg packet ... yes I included the 8050-88 as well.

jselvatici 07-16-2020 03:06 PM

I have a question too!
 
Seems like you guys read my mind!
I have a question regarding the registration as well.
I have received mine back from Van's and see how it looks like:



The question is: on FAA Form 8050-1 on Section 2, do I have to have the information in there exactly as it is on the bill of sale?
For some reason I had the impression that "Aircraft Manufacturer" would be the Builders name.

Plus, another thread (that I cannot find now) was talking about having (,) or (.) in this field.

I wish Mel would read this thread. :D

Thank you!

jnorris 07-16-2020 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jselvatici (Post 1446942)
Seems like you guys read my mind!
I have a question regarding the registration as well.
I have received mine back from Van's and see how it looks like:



The question is: on FAA Form 8050-1 on Section 2, do I have to have the information in there exactly as it is on the bill of sale?
For some reason I had the impression that "Aircraft Manufacturer" would be the Builders name.

Plus, another thread (that I cannot find now) was talking about having (,) or (.) in this field.

On the bill of sale from Van's, you should cross out "Aircraft" and write "Kit" next to it. It is not an aircraft until it is certificated.

On your application for registration, the aircraft manufacturer will be your name (or your corporation or LLC if that's applicable). Do NOT put VANS as the aircraft manufacturer. (Assuming this is amateur-built and not ELSA.)

One note about model names. Remember that the entire model name as shown on the registration has to also show up on the data plate and airworthiness certificate. KEEP IT SHORT! I did a certification once where the builder put down the model name as "Pietenpol aircamper 1932". Try to get THAT to fit on a data plate! Shorter is better for everyone involved.

RV7A Flyer 07-16-2020 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jselvatici (Post 1446942)
Seems like you guys read my mind!
I have a question regarding the registration as well.
I have received mine back from Van's and see how it looks like:



The question is: on FAA Form 8050-1 on Section 2, do I have to have the information in there exactly as it is on the bill of sale?
For some reason I had the impression that "Aircraft Manufacturer" would be the Builders name.

So...you don't get a "registration" back from Van's...you get a Bill of Sale, form 8050-2. On mine, and most others I believe, it had the word "AIRCRAFT" sort of blacked out (not well, as you could see through it) and the word "KIT" rubber-stamped next to it.

Now, get this...under "Manufacturer and Model"? All it said was "RV-7A".

I don't think this form has much to do with what you put on the registration form...it's really just to establish title/chain of custody legally. Somebody sold you a kit, and here's the BOS to prove it. You made it into a plane, and registered it the way you wanted it named, etc. You can call it whatever you want, built by whatever/whomever you want to put down there, use whatever serial number you desire.

Wasn't there somebody here a while back who registered their newly-finished RV as a model "Air Force One", just so he could use that when calling up on the radio?

kaa 07-16-2020 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjb (Post 1446777)
Not part of my calculation, but if you do this, you get on the radar for your state tax board ... they want their pound of flesh (or at least pound of wallet). CA hasn't approached me in last two years .. maybe they are pro GA? (hahaha; no)

If you don't hear from them, it doesn't mean that you don't owe the tax, the responsibility is on you to pay it either way. I didn't realize that this tax was a thing, and last year I was hit with 4 years worth of retroactive tax + interest.


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