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Capt 06-22-2020 06:53 AM

When exiting a Rwy after landing dont 'assume' it's safe to do so, if you find yourself unable to completly exit due another A/C not safely clear for whatever reason then that Rwy is effectively still occupied if you haven't cleared the gable markers!!

RV7A Flyer 06-22-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt (Post 1441057)
When exiting a Rwy after landing dont 'assume' it's safe to do so, if you find yourself unable to completly exit due another A/C not safely clear for whatever reason then that Rwy is effectively still occupied if you haven't cleared the gable markers!!

What the heck are "gable markers" ?

Gash 06-22-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rvmills (Post 1440808)
I'm hoping to win that steak from Gash-man someday too! :D

Cheers,
Bob

Nasty, the steak dinner is on me next time. I think you bought all the drinks last time I saw you in Fort Lauderdale!

rvmills 06-22-2020 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt (Post 1441057)
When exiting a Rwy after landing dont 'assume' it's safe to do so, if you find yourself unable to completly exit due another A/C not safely clear for whatever reason then that Rwy is effectively still occupied if you haven't cleared the gable markers!!

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Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer (Post 1441147)
What the heck are "gable markers" ?


Googling around a bit, found a ref to the Aussie Civil Aviation Safety Authority doc that describes them as triangles 3 meters long, .9 meters wide, .5 meters high. Could not find a doc that said where they are placed. Given Capt (quoted poster) is from OZ, perhaps they are similar to our hold short lines. Learned a new bar bet factoid today! :D

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Originally Posted by Gash (Post 1441148)
Nasty, the steak dinner is on me next time. I think you bought all the drinks last time I saw you in Fort Lauderdale!

Deal Brudda! Back in FLL next month on Tuesdays...maybe I'll see ya there again! ;)

Cheers,
Bob

KRviator 06-23-2020 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rvmills (Post 1441263)
Googling around a bit, found a ref to the Aussie Civil Aviation Safety Authority doc that describes them as triangles 3 meters long, .9 meters wide, .5 meters high. Could not find a doc that said where they are placed. Given Capt (quoted poster) is from OZ, perhaps they are similar to our hold short lines. Learned a new bar bet factoid today! :D

You yanks don't have Gable Markers? What defines the RWS over there then? Typically, the edge gables are aligned with any hold-short lines, but not always....

As for how they're placed, you can check out the Manual of Standards PDF that covers them if you click here...

Capt 06-23-2020 03:31 AM

Oh I guess we better educate our dear friends on the other side of the Pacific who drive on the wrong side of the road, measure in imperial and still use old MPH what Gable Markers are!:D
Gable markets (where used) delineate the physical dimension/s of the RWS:)
You guys have gotta get with the program...lololol

Snowflake 06-23-2020 07:18 AM

Odd, we have gable markers in Canada. The airport where I grew up had them on both sides of the runway for years, until they fell into disrepair. They were replaced with orange traffic cones, which were less visible... But also more forgiving to an airplane that strayed off the centerline...

rvmills 06-23-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 1441268)
You yanks don't have Gable Markers? What defines the RWS over there then? Typically, the edge gables are aligned with any hold-short lines, but not always....

As for how they're placed, you can check out the Manual of Standards PDF that covers them if you click here...

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Originally Posted by Capt (Post 1441270)
Oh I guess we better educate our dear friends on the other side of the Pacific who drive on the wrong side of the road, measure in imperial and still use old MPH what Gable Markers are!:D
Gable markets (where used) delineate the physical dimension/s of the RWS:)
You guys have gotta get with the program...lololol

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 1441301)
Odd, we have gable markers in Canada. The airport where I grew up had them on both sides of the runway for years, until they fell into disrepair. They were replaced with orange traffic cones, which were less visible... But also more forgiving to an airplane that strayed off the centerline...

KRviator...my computer didn't want me to open that link without changing permissions, but I did look at a Transport Canada AIM to try to figure out what RWS is (Runway Strip?). Our airport markings are delineated in our AIM...its pretty extensive...and good fodder for pilot certificate oral exams. ;)

Capt...yes, we drive on the "right" side of the road (literally); I'll give ya the metric thing...we can't figure out its the same basic 10's idea as our money; and many of us only use mph when air racing (sounds better/faster). But we did drop one u from colourful, so we are efficient in our spelling, if nothing else. :p

Snowflake...gable markers in disrepair would likely be re-purposed (yeah, that's what we'll call it ;) ) by pilots and turned into chocks here...and orange cones would probably be absconded by the weekend sports car club at my field for their rallies. Nothing is sacred to us Colonists...but as a Canuck, you know that too! :p

Oh, and Runway Strip...hmmmm...sounds like a bar across from an airport...wait, I better not go there! :D

Cheers,
Bob

sf3543 06-23-2020 09:02 AM

You all haven't lived until you operate at a private airport where one runway and the taxiway is shared by cars, people on bikes, planes, corporate jets, heavy twins, gliders and the occasional race car that gets permission to race down the runway.
Oh yeah, and then there's the Cirrus training center planes that block everything while they do their 20 minute run ups all over the place and can't seem to fly the pattern but opt for the 10 mile straight in approach most of the time.
In general, common courtesy is becoming a thing of the past.

avi8tor50 06-23-2020 03:07 PM

Was flying yesterday and after landing checked out how much room I had after clearing the HS marker. I would say I had about 10 feet or more behind my tail to the HS marker and my nose did NOT extend beyond the edge of the taxiway.
I would think that it would NOT be an issue for a Cessna 150 or 172 to clear the HS without extending onto the taxiway. Of course this is at my field. I guess it could be different somewhere else.


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