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F1Boss 04-12-2020 10:22 AM
APPROVED!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1421667)
That's what I told the IA who did my condition inspection this year. Took me 15 minutes to add a hose clamp to the filter and safety wire it so he would be happy and sign it off. :rolleyes:
Yep - if that is all it takes to get his signature. You can take it off now..:eek: BTW that will allow any others who think the wire is magical to use the less expensive filters too! As another time saving device, can re-use both the wire AND clamp!;)

PilotjohnS 04-12-2020 10:24 AM
My RV taxi
 
After the dealer nearly stripped out the drain plug on my taxi I use to pick up RV parts, i dont let monkeys work on my cars anymore.

emsvitil 04-12-2020 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1421667)
That's what I told the IA who did my condition inspection this year. Took me 15 minutes to add a hose clamp to the filter and safety wire it so he would be happy and sign it off. :rolleyes:

How do you keep the hose clamp from loosening?


:rolleyes:

RV8JD 04-12-2020 05:20 PM
Oil Filter Safety Wire
 
I've posted this before, but what the heck:

It's interesting to note that Robinson Helicopter does not require the safety wiring of the Lycoming engine oil filter per their Service Letter shown below:

https://robinsonheli.com/wp-content/...2/r44_sl45.pdf
SUBJECT: Deleted Safety Wire
"BACKGROUND: Safety wire and safety wire provisions have been deleted from various installations and parts. Deleting safety wire reduces maintenance cost and decreases the potential for safety wire-related FOD. This letter provides guidance for installing parts with or without safety wire provisions."

...

"• Lycoming engines: Oil filters and D723-1 adapter assemblies with or without safety wire provisions do not require safety wire. Installation instructions are on the oil filter."

If a helicopter manufacturer doesn't think it's necessary ...

(For transparency, my oil filter is safety wired.)

Pilot135pd 04-12-2020 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emsvitil (Post 1421813)
How do you keep the hose clamp from loosening?


:rolleyes:
Buy buying a quality clamp? Is that a trick question?

Pilot135pd 04-12-2020 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RV8JD (Post 1421819)
I've posted this before, but what the heck:

It's interesting to note that Robinson Helicopter does not require the safety wiring of the Lycoming engine oil filter per their Service Letter shown below:

https://robinsonheli.com/wp-content/...2/r44_sl45.pdf
SUBJECT: Deleted Safety Wire
"BACKGROUND: Safety wire and safety wire provisions have been deleted from various installations and parts. Deleting safety wire reduces maintenance cost and decreases the potential for safety wire-related FOD. This letter provides guidance for installing parts with or without safety wire provisions."

...

"? Lycoming engines: Oil filters and D723-1 adapter assemblies with or without safety wire provisions do not require safety wire. Installation instructions are on the oil filter."

If a helicopter manufacturer doesn't think it's necessary ...

(For transparency, my oil filter is safety wired.)
Also helicopter engines operate at full rpm constantly and are composed of a whole mess of parts all trying to vibrate themselves apart.

Pilot135pd 04-12-2020 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F1Boss (Post 1421707)
Yep - if that is all it takes to get his signature. You can take it off now..:eek: BTW that will allow any others who think the wire is magical to use the less expensive filters too! As another time saving device, can re-use both the wire AND clamp!;)
I left it on, had more important things to do and it doesn?t bother me one way or another.

emsvitil 04-12-2020 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1421833)
Buy buying a quality clamp? Is that a trick question?

No.

I've never had a filter loosen or a clamp.

But if you keep adding 'safety' where does it stop...............

Clamp too loose, doesn't do anything. Too tight, you might put a hole in the filter.

GalinHdz 04-12-2020 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1421698)
It was a joke for my old boss. I currently own a F150 and a ?66 Ford and also a Toyota Tundra.
And a good joke too. We are still talking about Fords right? :p

Pilot135pd 04-12-2020 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emsvitil (Post 1421841)
No.

I've never had a filter loosen or a clamp.

But if you keep adding 'safety' where does it stop...............

Clamp too loose, doesn't do anything. Too tight, you might put a hole in the filter.
I haven't either. If you read my comments I never use them and I use WIX filters but had to or my CI wouldn't be signed. He didn't like the WIX filter either but I wasn't going to remove a new filter so he accepted it. I could have taken the clamp off right after he left but that would mean wasting more time on a useless situation. Next oil filter change it stays off.


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