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p51dplt 02-09-2020 10:10 PM

Wire Labels
 
What have everyone used for heat shrink labels for doing wire labels on 22g wires and up?
I am starting a total rewire and avionic upgrade and am looking for suggestions.

Thanks!

N804RV 02-09-2020 10:25 PM

I'm using a Dymo Rhino 5200. It takes several sized of heat shrink.

GeoffP 02-10-2020 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by N804RV (Post 1406790)
I'm using a Dymo Rhino 5200. It takes several sized of heat shrink.

Dymo Rhino 4200 for me.

N514CL 02-10-2020 06:14 AM

DYMO 4200 as well. The OEM cartridges are expensive, so I bought the aftermarket ones on Amazon, which are about 1/3 the price they work just as well.

Chris

BlndRvtr 02-10-2020 10:31 AM

I just type out the label on my computer and slide it under a piece of clear heatshrink and shrink.

George

219PB 02-10-2020 11:10 AM

Ditto on the Dymo and the aftermarket cartridges.

plehrke 02-10-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 219PB (Post 1406885)
Ditto on the Dymo and the aftermarket cartridges.

Same here. Dymo 4200 with after market cartridges. Just did autopilot installed and worked great down to 22 gauge wire for the 1/4" sleeves.

p51dplt 02-10-2020 08:36 PM

Thanks for the replies and info.

KHeidorn 02-10-2020 08:57 PM

Black Sharpie, white shrink tube. write on the shrink tube then shrink it. It's fast and cheap.

PilotjohnS 02-10-2020 09:04 PM

My experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KHeidorn (Post 1407008)
Black Sharpie, white shrink tube. write on the shrink tube then shrink it. It's fast and cheap.

I did this for my it wiring at the house. After a few years the sharpie faded. Now I can’t read them. For the plane i am using the printed heat shrink.

Sam_B 02-10-2020 09:36 PM

Dymo 160
 
There?s a cheaper dymo than the 5200, I think 160, and the cartridges are $13 on Amazon. I could check the model number when I?m at the hangar next, but it?s around $20. Google ?kitplanes magazine wire labels? or something like that. All of that said, I haven?t tried it, wiring is going to start next week.

GeoffP 02-11-2020 02:14 AM

One Other thing...
 
The Dymo 4200 is set up for "electrical" type work, so the symbol library has electrical symbols in it, and you can print "flag" labels if you need to using the vinyl or nylon tapes Rhino cartridges.

9GT 02-11-2020 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotjohnS (Post 1407011)
I did this for my it wiring at the house. After a few years the sharpie faded. Now I can?t read them. For the plane i am using the printed heat shrink.

Same here when I built my Rv-10. On the 9-A I bought the Dymo 4200 along with three (3) 3-packs for assorted shrink tube cartridges, 1/2", 3/8", & 1/4". That investment was just under $100 total from Amazon and was one of the best tools I bought for wiring.

scard 02-11-2020 08:38 AM

Does that 1/4" tubing shrink down onto a #22 wire?

I have an old K-Sun tube printer, but the materials are three times the cost.

az_gila 02-11-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scard (Post 1407087)
Does that 1/4" tubing shrink down onto a #22 wire?

I have an old K-Sun tube printer, but the materials are three times the cost.

Yes..

More words added...

flyingclay 02-11-2020 11:34 AM

I am using clear shrink tube and printing labels on computer printer, works well and is easy to read.

John Tierney 02-11-2020 12:44 PM

Brother P-touch PT-D400 for labels (9 mm/0.35") then clear heat shrink.

RVDan 02-11-2020 05:44 PM

I don?t know the cost, but ACS and others will laser mark and cut to length wire. Send them an excel spreadsheet with the wire numbers(I?d), wire type and length. Get back wires marked every 6? and cut to length. This is the way the pros do it.

freedomtofly 02-11-2020 08:31 PM

I used 5 colours of heat shrink corresponding to the number system used in resistor color code. I then cut the heat shrink into pieces trying to keep the pieces the same size except for the first digit. For example I might have used the wire # 2431. I would cut a wider piece of heat shrink for the 2 (red) then same width of heat shrink for the 4(yellow) 3(orange) 1(brown). The wire then doesn?t need to be turned to try and read the lettering. All my wiring diagrams then have the legend for each wire. You can click on this link for a picture is worth a thousand words. https://photos.app.goo.gl/6M9VUQA96VLYt3zK7
Ed

RV7A Flyer 02-12-2020 04:50 PM

K-Sun BEE3. Been loaned out now to 3 other builders after me, works like a charm, although yeah, the cartridges are a bit pricey.

GalinHdz 02-15-2020 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Tierney (Post 1407146)
Brother P-touch PT-D400 for labels (9 mm/0.35") then clear heat shrink.

+1
That is exactly what I did when I built my panel back in 2012. They still look like I just installed them.



:cool:

Pilot135pd 06-15-2020 08:50 AM

So they both work for labeling wires but how about for the avionics panel? I have to rename a few switches. Brother P-Touch PT-D400 is half the price of the Dymo Rhino 4200. Is there that much difference or is it just more modern?

mfleming 06-15-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_B (Post 1407018)
There?s a cheaper dymo than the 5200, I think 160, and the cartridges are $13 on Amazon. I could check the model number when I?m at the hangar next, but it?s around $20. Google ?kitplanes magazine wire labels? or something like that. All of that said, I haven?t tried it, wiring is going to start next week.

Yes, the DYMO 160 works great with the ⅜" or ?" heat shrink tubing. I think it also works for the ?" tubing but I haven't tried it.

Pilot135pd 06-15-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mfleming (Post 1439446)
Yes, the DYMO 160 works great with the ⅜" or ?" heat shrink tubing. I think it also works for the ?" tubing but I haven't tried it.

Wow, that one is even cheaper and available down the street. What about for the avionics panel? It's not completely smooth, does it stick well enough for switch labeling?

mfleming 06-15-2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1439451)
Wow, that one is even cheaper and available down the street. What about for the avionics panel? It's not completely smooth, does it stick well enough for switch labeling?

Well I'm using the heat shrink feature...not sure what your asking??

Pilot135pd 06-15-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfleming (Post 1439456)
Well I'm using the heat shrink feature...not sure what your asking??

You mentioned it works for labeling wires with heat shrink tubing but how about for making labels for the avionics panel? I have to rename a few switches.

bbsdad 06-15-2020 11:09 AM

Dymo
 
The dymo works well but use industryel labels that stick better. Or you can get white or black on clear. Then spray on clear paint looks good and will last long. It?s the way I?m going. Just my 2cents.

mfleming 06-15-2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1439459)
You mentioned it works for labeling wires with heat shrink tubing but how about for making labels for the avionics panel? I have to rename a few switches.

Personally I plan on using clear decals and spraying a clear coat on top for my panel labeling. I wouldn't use the label maker labels for my panel.

If you're talking about behind the panel, I would use bbsdad's advice and use an industrial adhesive label and I'm sure you could find some that work in the Demo 160.

FinnFlyer 06-15-2020 05:39 PM

The 1/4" A18051 heat shrink tubing works OK up to 22 or 24 AWG. For 26 and higher the tubing doesn't shrink enough to really grip the wire.

The Dymo LabelManager 160 likes to waste label tubing (and other label material). Type in as many as you can (a space or two between labels) before printing, print and then cut them with scissors. Of course you can hand-write on the wasted blank pieces of tubing. The 5' was not enough for all my wiring -- had to buy a second cartridge. Tempting to not have the tube sticking out (clear the opening) before printing but often will wrap around the roller and waste even more.

The Dymo LabelManager 160 I bought did not work out of the box. I had to take it apart and figure out how to get the drive mechanism working.

Finn

RicoB 06-17-2020 09:59 AM

+1 Dymo and the aftermarket cartridges.
works great!!!

Pilot135pd 06-17-2020 10:01 AM

Saw a Kitplanes video about the Dynon 160 so I ordered one and it should be here Monday, we?ll see.


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