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svyolo 12-04-2019 09:46 PM

EFI engine shutdown
 
Is there a preferred method for shutting down an EFI Lycoming? Just turn off the master like on a car, or shut the fuel pump off?

Obviously both will shut the engine down. I was interested because of a wiring logic I would like to use.

Thor RV10 12-04-2019 10:19 PM

I have been using EFII for 4 years and 800 hours now in my RV10. Shutting down starts with shutting both ECU units, then master.

johnbright 12-04-2019 10:24 PM

engine should run with master contactor open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svyolo (Post 1390746)
Is there a preferred method for shutting down an EFI Lycoming? Just turn off the master like on a car, or shut the fuel pump off?

Obviously both will shut the engine down. I was interested because of a wiring logic I would like to use.

IMO opening the master contactor should not kill the engine. In case of fire in the cockpit you should be able to open the master contactor and still have engine power and if the master contactor fails you should still have engine power. Stop the engine with coil, injector, or pump power your choice but kill them and the ECU within a few seconds of one another. SDS in their 6 cylinder dual ECU installation instruction says to "NEVER switch off ECU power to verify coil pack operation" so I take it as good advice to shut down the coilpacks before the ECU for EFI systems in general.

svyolo 12-05-2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johnbright (Post 1390750)
IMO opening the master contactor should not kill the engine. In case of fire in the cockpit one should be able to open the master contactor and still have engine power and if the master contactor fails one should still have engine power. Stop the engine with coil power, fuel pump power, or ECU power your choice but kill them all within a few seconds of one another.

Having the engine continue to run with the battery disconnected or master off was my intention and the reason for the question.

Thanks for the responses.

219PB 12-05-2019 05:58 AM

I have mine set up so that I can toggle an emergency bus switch which will give power to the essential buss that the engine runs on. So on a normal shutdown I just turn the master off and the engine dies. If I engage the emergency bus switch first, the engine will keep running with the master off.

rv6ejguy 12-05-2019 06:20 AM

You can kill coil or injector power or shut off the pumps.

Foghorn 12-05-2019 06:38 AM

Is there a reason you can't just pull the mixture to cutoff first?

rv6ejguy 12-05-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Foghorn (Post 1390792)
Is there a reason you can't just pull the mixture to cutoff first?

The mixture knob will reduce the AFR by 50% so if idle is set up for about 13 to 1 at the normal 12 O'clock position, this should kill the engine too. Just don't forget the position when you try to restart again.

airguy 12-05-2019 08:10 AM

Any downside to just killing the fuel pump first?

McStevens 12-05-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by airguy (Post 1390816)
Any downside to just killing the fuel pump first?

I'd think this is identical to mixture cutoff for shutting down a carb engine.


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