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Almost always when you hear another experimental on the frequency... it's an RV. When I first decided to build, I didn't want an RV because everyone else had one. When I decided on the RV I bought it because everyone else had one. Know what I mean? Sometimes they blend my call sign like this: Experimental RV7JS! :D CJ |
Refer to the AIM?
I realized yesterday after referring to the AIM, I've been doing this wrong.
Here is the excerpt: 3.Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or manufacturer?s name, followed by the digits/letters of the registration number. When the aircraft manufacturer?s name or model is stated, the prefix ?N? is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha. EXAMPLE−1.Bonanza Six Five Five Golf. 2.Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit ?Experimental? after initial contact). |
I've also been an "Army" RVator
I try to make it clear, but people sometimes hear "Army."
I was once asked what I was flying by.... a "fellow" Army pilot! A passenger once thought I called my Cherokee a "turkey," for what that's worth.... :D Quote:
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Experimental November 880 Bravo Charlie. First time only. After that it's zero bravo charlie However when they are informing other aircraft of my presence they ALWAYS refer to me as an "experimental"....as in: "Experimental to your right about 2 o'clock, 3 miles" |
10,000 RVs flying. Controllers don't know what they are by now? I don't see the need for Experimental.
Around here (lots of RVs), we just say RV and so do the controllers. We never use Experimental, preceding type. |
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I believe that when this rule was created, experimental aircraft were inherently more risky propositions (limited numbers, no kits, etc) and the FAA wanted the tower folks to be notified to deal with that increased risk. RV's don't really fall into that category of risk and likely why most controllers don't care that people call an RV an RV instead of experimental. The RV risk profile is on par with most certified aircraft. Larry |
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It's really helpful. |
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Around here it seems they prefer type as in RV. I?ve been saying RV 620RV on initial without question. Plus it lets them know our capabilities, so when they say RV 20RV cleared to land keep your speed up for #2 they know we can.
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I use "experimental" because of what I believe is communication clarity because of my N number.
I call "experimental 72 Mike Echo" and it is clear what my call sign is. Lets say I call "RV 72 Mike Echo" , what is my N number? 72ME or just 2ME because the aircraft type identifier is "RV7". Same applies if I tried to say "RV7....72ME." Am I 772ME? Once they get it, sure, self referencing as RV is fine but the EXP call habits are d***ed hard to break. |
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