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n816kc 05-03-2019 03:33 PM

Well, now that we’ve got that settled, can we move on to something less contentious like overhead breaks or non-standard patterns?��

snopercod 05-03-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GalinHdz (Post 1344209)
If ATC asks what kind of experimental I am, then I provide the official FAA/ICAO designation.

That's what I do: I'm a Lancair LNC2. Many times they call me a Lance, but I'm faster than one of those :D

NewbRVator 05-03-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by n816kc (Post 1344210)
Well, now that we?ve got that settled, can we move on to something less contentious like overhead breaks or non-standard patterns?��

Glug, glug glug,....

That's the sound of 100LL being poured onto the campfire.

Soooooo, are overhead breaks OK at non-towered airport.

catmandu 05-03-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NewbRVator (Post 1344260)
Quote:

Originally Posted by n816kc (Post 1344210)
Well, now that we?ve got that settled, can we move on to something less contentious like overhead breaks or non-standard patterns?��

glug glug glug,....

That's the sound of 100LL being poured onto the campfire.

Soooooo, are overhead breaks OK at non-towered airport.

I was just thinking this thread is turning into a prime candidate for the "Never Ending Debate" section of the forum. :rolleyes:

airguy 05-03-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NewbRVator (Post 1344260)
Glug, glug glug,....

That's the sound of 100LL being poured onto the campfire.

Soooooo, are overhead breaks OK at non-towered airport.

Well, we need to define "OK" for that discussion.

I use them all the time in my home private strip... in my overpowered 9A, with too much fuel, no steam backups, and parts of it dubiously primered. Somewhere in the fuel system I've almost certainly got some off-spec parts as well. Works fine for me, YMMV! :D

plehrke 05-04-2019 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NewbRVator (Post 1344260)
Soooooo, are overhead breaks OK at non-towered airport.

As long as you use?experimental? on your first radio transmission.

RV7ator 05-04-2019 07:18 AM

Wrong, again. I hope you're being facetious. There's no requirement for "experimental" in any radio call except to the first approach/tower contact and continued for clarity only if they repeat it.

But for rare instances, there's no statutory requirement for any radio transmission at a non-towered airport.

Jeeze, after 13 pages of back and forth, you'd think this point was settled.

John Siebold

ericv 05-04-2019 08:04 AM

AIA
 
10/12/17
AIM 4-2-4. a.
3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft
type, model or manufacturer?s name, followed by the
digits/letters of the registration number. When the
aircraft manufacturer?s name or model is stated, the
prefix ?N? is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four
Alpha.
EXAMPLE−
1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit
?Experimental? after initial contact).

Saville 05-04-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RV7ator (Post 1344312)
Wrong, again. I hope you're being facetious. There's no requirement for "experimental" in any radio call except to the first approach/tower contact and continued for clarity only if they repeat it.

But for rare instances, there's no statutory requirement for any radio transmission at a non-towered airport.

Jeeze, after 13 pages of back and forth, you'd think this point was settled.

John Siebold

It was settled - pages and pages ago. You are required to use the word "experimental" on your first call-up. After that it's not required.

RV7A Flyer 05-04-2019 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saville (Post 1344330)
It was settled - pages and pages ago. You are required to use the word "experimental" on your first call-up. After that it's not required.

Sorry, no. The reg says you are required to "Notify the control tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft..."

There's a difference, legally :)


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