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NewbRVator 04-27-2019 10:52 AM

"Say Type Experimental..."
 
RV's. Gotta love em.
So nice to hear ARTCC "Say Type Experimental..." after giving traffic alert and the little RV speeding up and avoiding their standard certificated brethren.

Auburntsts 04-27-2019 11:18 AM

I was flying back into Tampa today IFR after a 2-day trip up in Alabama and for the first time ever I was given a speed reduction. But not once but twice— both times for 30 knots!!

NewbRVator 04-27-2019 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auburntsts (Post 1342635)
I was flying back into Tampa today IFR after a 2-day trip up with in Alabama and for the first time ever I was given a speed reduction. But not once but twice? both times for 30 knots!!

Ha!!!:D:D:D

Ralph Inkster 04-27-2019 12:22 PM

I used to use 'Experimental RV-7 ...' and was once told to skip the 'Experimental' part and just use 'RV-7' as FAA actually has all the Vans models listed as A/C Type Designators per FAA Order 7360 ID, page C137.

Canada (per ICAO) has similar.

RV7ator 04-27-2019 01:26 PM

Indeed. Drop the "experimental" nonsense. Useless. Type is useful. Don't bother quoting the FARs about that first contact with ATC. They don't care either.

John Siebold

snopercod 04-27-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NewbRVator (Post 1342630)
...and the little RV speeding up and avoiding their standard certificated brethren.

Isn't that a great feeling? Last week my little 140 HP Lancair had a 60 Kt overtake on a 160 HP C-172. Yup, I blew his doors off when I passed him!

Auburntsts 04-27-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RV7ator (Post 1342656)
Indeed. Drop the "experimental" nonsense. Useless. Type is useful. Don't bother quoting the FARs about that first contact with ATC. They don't care either.

John Siebold

Since my oplims state it, I always preface my call to a tower and only a tower with “experimental” and only on my initial call. There is no requirement to preface a call to any other ATC facility. In my experience flying IFR in the system, which I do regularly and on every cross country, using “RV 728TT” is more than adequate as ATC is generally well aware of the RV line’s performance (the RV-12 might be an exception).

andrewtac 04-27-2019 01:35 PM

Best one I heard was he is off your right side, about a hundred knots of closure; appr was talking to a small ga plane warning them about me on my way to my home field.

Flying Canuck 04-27-2019 01:42 PM

On my trip into the US last month, I think I only had one controller consistently include experimental when talking to me. It definitely wasn't the one at Billings vectoring me for arrival between an A319 and a B712. He kept on passing me as a Cirrus to the jets. Guess I was coming in a little fast. I corrected them on next contact, I don't want to be labelled as a Cirrus - such a downgrade.

Most places were happy to refer to me simply as an RV9.

Bill Boyd 04-27-2019 01:59 PM

except when...
 
the controller comes back to you confused as to what type of aircraft the "Army" is flying today.

"Romeo Victor" seems to confuse them just as much, at first.


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