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bkervaski 11-17-2019 08:53 PM

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Currently the FAA’s N-number reservation system has created a near monopoly on “custom” or desirable Aircraft registration N-numbers. This has lead to a price increase for “buying” an N-number of thousands of dollars. Organizations and individuals with deep pockets don't mind but general aviation pilots are being squeezed out by an unfair system unintentionally created by current FAA rules.
Like I said, there is nothing preventing anyone from getting an N number.

I don’t see any problem worth creating more unnecessary laws.

What these guys are doing is no different than internet domain names, vanity phone numbers, or real estate.

There’s some land down the street that I would love to build a house on and since the owner isn’t using it I guess we should petition the government to take it away while we’re at it.

alpinelakespilot2000 11-17-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bkervaski (Post 1386941)
There’s some land down the street that I would love to build a house on and since the owner isn’t using it I guess we should petition the government to take it away while we’re at it.

Not really a good analogy. In the case you describe it would be a government taking of private property. With n#’s we’re talking about the opposite, a private party taking of a public resource... more akin to a private party squatting on public land and demanding he/she be paid by someone else for its use.

Pilot135pd 11-17-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alpinelakespilot2000 (Post 1386947)
Not really a good analogy. In the case you describe it would be a government taking of private property. With n#?s we?re talking about the opposite, a private party taking of a public resource... more akin to a private party squatting on public land and demanding he/she be paid by someone else for its use.

That analogy is more appropriate to this situation.

PilotjohnS 11-18-2019 02:49 AM

Easy
 
Is it me or is this too complicated. Just ban the sale of n numbers. They may be transferred with plane sale. Or transfered for free.

bkervaski 11-18-2019 06:21 AM

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In the case you describe it would be a government taking of private property
What is private property other than the government recognizing that someone owns it [by means of a "registration"]?

What about internet domain names?

What about vanity toll free numbers?

My point is .. really .. it's simply not a problem that has to be addressed. There's nothing stopping anyone from getting N numbers and laws like the one suggested just continue erode our freedoms over time making the lines gray on where to draw them and setting precedent that can be skewed by lawmakers.

Toobuilder 11-18-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotjohnS (Post 1386964)
Is it me or is this too complicated. Just ban the sale of n numbers...

That's a slippery slope. The problem with that approach is that you need to expend scarce resources to create a new law, then you need to expend even more resources to enforce the new law when people find a perceived loophole. Let's not forget that during this policy review period, the powers that be are going to "correct" other issues and we may end up considerably worse off than we are now.

I could see the Feds saying "screw it - nobody gets to reserve an N number anymore. You will get what you are assigned and like it!". That brings equality to all of us.

bkervaski 11-18-2019 08:44 AM

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I could see the Feds saying "screw it - nobody gets to reserve an N number anymore. You will get what you are assigned and like it!". That brings equality to all of us.
Yep, that's what I would do if I were in charge of the registration system and the petition came across my desk.

However, being on the other side of the desk I say let's leave well enough alone :o

RV7A Flyer 11-18-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bkervaski (Post 1386976)
What is private property other than the government recognizing that someone owns it [by means of a "registration"]?

What about internet domain names?

What about vanity toll free numbers?

My point is .. really .. it's simply not a problem that has to be addressed. There's nothing stopping anyone from getting N numbers and laws like the one suggested just continue erode our freedoms over time making the lines gray on where to draw them and setting precedent that can be skewed by lawmakers.

What about vanity license plates on cars? Since you can't get a plate unless you have a car, that pretty much eliminates the "hoarding" or "squatting" we see here.

bkervaski 11-18-2019 10:18 AM

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What about vanity license plates on cars? Since you can't get a plate unless you have a car, that pretty much eliminates the "hoarding" or "squatting" we see here.
Good point .. but you still have to pay for vanity plates, at least in the states I've lived in.

gap 11-18-2019 10:31 AM

The issuing authority should just put expiring numbers on eBay for a week in a no-reserve auction. Let the government capture the extra value instead of the scalpers.


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