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hevansrv7a 04-05-2007 05:37 AM

GPS concern
 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

It says that in 2006 the signals were adversely affected by solar weather and are likely to be affected that way again in 2011. I am posting only the link and the headline to stay clear of copyright issues.

Solar Bursts May Threaten GPS Apr 4 02:16 PM US/Eastern
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
AP Science Writer

Ironflight 04-05-2007 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldAndBold
Just one act of nuclear terrorism spacebursting a nuke over the US could wipe out most of our satellites and a lot of our ground based electronics. The Russians or the Chinese could take our sats out in a matter of minutes and we would have nothing to navigate with.

I wouldn't worry to much about that O&B......it's no where near as easy as that, and permanent disablement would take quite an act of targeting. Sci-Fi/Action movies notwithstanding, EMP's don't have global effects....

Paul

jsherblon 04-05-2007 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironflight
I wouldn't worry to much about that O&B......it's no where near as easy as that, and permanent disablement would take quite an act of targeting. Sci-Fi/Action movies notwithstanding, EMP's don't have global effects....

Paul

So Goldeneye isn't real? What next - Tarzan is fictional?

cheetah 04-05-2007 11:54 AM

Tarzan
 
Tarzan real.

Ironflight 04-05-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldAndBold
..... but what is the radius of effect? 10 miles? 100 miles? 1000 miles? The GPS sats are what, 11000 miles up? How accurate would a missile have to be to take it and other sats nearby out? ......I don't know. .

I do know....and this doesn't even make the event horizon of my worry list...I'm sorry, it sounds like I'm raggin' on you, and honestly, I am not. I just don't want folks spreading worry rumors about something that isn't really feasible.

But then, we are all free to worry about whatever we want! I'm still worried about that friggin' spider picture someone else posted the other day....:D

Geico266 04-05-2007 07:12 PM

GPS is going to make all other forms of navigation obsolete.

OldAndBold 04-05-2007 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironflight
I'm sorry, it sounds like I'm raggin' on you, and honestly, I am not....

You aren't ragging on me. No offense taken. I had just heard from many places that our satellite fleet was susceptible to many things. If not, then I can stop worrying.

You can generally tell several things from my posting patterns. Lots of posts - I'm stuck on some RV problem and need a distraction. Not many posts and I am probably making progress. Today it was R-710 being mis-drilled. Nuff said.

I still like VORs. ADFs too.

--JCB

John Clark 04-05-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geico266
GPS is going to make all other forms of navigation obsolete.

Darn! I really enjoy having a sectional in my lap and looking outside. Guess I'm just an old duffer.

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
(IFR, Steam gauges and a GNS430)
KSBA

Tarzan 04-06-2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetah
Tarzan real.

Cheetah real.

OldAndBold 04-06-2007 01:29 PM

But let me get this right...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironflight
I do know....and this doesn't even make the event horizon of my worry list...I'm sorry, it sounds like I'm raggin' on you, and honestly, I am not. I just don't want folks spreading worry rumors about something that isn't really feasible.

But then, we are all free to worry about whatever we want! I'm still worried about that friggin' spider picture someone else posted the other day....:D

OK, so you are telling me that the GPS satellites are immune from any attack?

I mean, just about every weapons system I have worked on in the last almost 20 years has been either based on or relied heavily on GPS technology to do its mission - cruise missiles - electronic warfare systems - military aircraft nav - armored vehicles - sub hunting aircraft - all depend on GPS to be effective. Is really that far out there to think that our enemies are going to just ignore this military advantage we have and leave the sats alone?

I think this would qualify as a legitimate concern about GPS. Good as GPS is I think there is a down side to our civil navaids being tied to a military system.

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