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snopercod 10-05-2018 02:59 PM

I really like the cardboard mockup. You could put your N-numbers on the tail instead of feathers.

mbauer 10-07-2018 09:03 PM

Worked all Weekend On Design
 
Spent most of this weekend working on my design upgrades.

Couldn't find a happy place for the head cape feathers, finally brought in some eagles in flight to get an idea or two. I think I found what I was looking for.

Also created an RV paper 3D model, almost complete once I figure how to make a canopy, real rough, nor curves just slabs for fuselage, but it works for the paint project. I'll show a photo down below.

Steps to get to a semi-final look:

First printed out Ed's design and then cut and glued the wings and the HS to the side profile view. Once the HS is glued into place the feathers going up the VS & rudder don't seem to flow as nice.





Next step was to experiment with different feather patterns for the head cape. Tried several finally on try 14 found something that fits with the wing style and flows with the overall head shape.

The two photos below show the experiment with the cape and tail feathers.

I decide to go with a red out line instead of solid red; reason why is eagle tail feathers are white, decide to try and emulate that with my graphic.

Here is a version with the cape feathers with angled tail feathers, and HS feathers:



A quick glue and see what it looks like:



The tail feathers just don't seem to fit right.

Here is the semi-final look, revision 15, feathers removed from HS and VS:




Here is a 1st try at an RV 6 paper model, this was made last night. Today I added the revision 15 graphics and will build the model tonight. Major changes to the model as well.



Bottom view:



Well back to model building...

Best regards,
Mike Bauer

EdH 10-08-2018 07:50 AM

Mike, great modelling!

I like the new bigger head/cape. That bigger head IMHO would look great with my stretched longer body.

The new combo of tail feathers on the fuz with the horizontal stab is cool, however I prefer my original idea for the tail feather spread across the whole surface of the emp.

Try those, and personally I think you'll have it.

PS. Feathers on the bottom are a nice touch!

mbauer 10-08-2018 08:29 AM

Model Build Revision 15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdH (Post 1293884)
Mike, great modelling!

I like the new bigger head/cape. That bigger head IMHO would look great with my stretched longer body.

The new combo of tail feathers on the fuz with the horizontal stab is cool, however I prefer my original idea for the tail feather spread across the whole surface of the emp.

Try those, and personally I think you'll have it.

PS. Feathers on the bottom are a nice touch!

Hi Ed,

I plan to experiment more with the model. Gives better look for fit of graphics. Thinking I will be able to add skins to attempt different looks.

Will be doing a model or skins of your modifications to see how it will look.

Built a second model last night, modified some of the parts for better fit and ease of build, still took two hours to complete.

Compound curves are a real pain in paper, will have to form a canopy later, it will take several hours of work to accomplish. Due to the curves in the real canopy, the paper one will have several cuts and gluing to form a semi-curve look using flat panels.

Here are some photos of a RV-6 Convertible:



Here is the right side view:



Bottom View:



Final view:



Best regards,
Mike Bauer

JimS 10-08-2018 11:48 AM

Just what I see
 
The eagle head to me has the effect of the picture the some people see the beautiful young girl looking away from you or you see the ugly old lady. I believe they call it a left brain or right brain thing. I can see the eagle head looking forward but first impression for me is a face looking rearward. I think the darker blue lines pull my attention away from the lighter yellow beak.

rockwoodrv9 10-08-2018 04:51 PM

I think Jim is correct. It needs something to pull your eye to the beak. Maybe the blue head part solid blue? Where the wing meets the fuselage, I would make the blue from the wing match in width to the fuselage blue. Widen it and then taper it as it goes out the wing?

Just ideas. You are really making sure you get what you want Mike! That is the way to do it. One other thing to try is to put your plane in a hangar and use a projection system to project the design onto your plane. I have seen projectors for under a $100 and may help work out the final edits. You can watch movies on the hangar door after you are done with the vinyl wrap!! Have fun.

mbauer 10-09-2018 08:39 AM

Model Design
 
On another website for paper models, I have been posting a similar thread. One of the designers, way better than me, has posted a quick 3D drawing of the RV-6.

I've asked permission to copy and paste the drawing here.

Looks like he might be creating an actual model.

Best regards,
Mike Bauer

Jaypratt 10-09-2018 08:40 AM

3D?
 
Could a 3D printer make a RV model for this purpose?

mbauer 10-09-2018 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9 (Post 1294040)
I think Jim is correct. It needs something to pull your eye to the beak. Maybe the blue head part solid blue? Where the wing meets the fuselage, I would make the blue from the wing match in width to the fuselage blue. Widen it and then taper it as it goes out the wing?

Just ideas. You are really making sure you get what you want Mike! That is the way to do it. One other thing to try is to put your plane in a hangar and use a projection system to project the design onto your plane. I have seen projectors for under a $100 and may help work out the final edits. You can watch movies on the hangar door after you are done with the vinyl wrap!! Have fun.

Hi Rockwood,

Yes, the drawing and photos don't show the real colors. The yellow is very bright, however it and some of the other colors were washed out under the bright light I used.

The laser printer prints vivid yellow, while my inkjet changed it to orange yellow. Used the inkjet for the model because laser print flakes off the cardstock when bending or rolling the model parts.

Actual graphic color will be a bright yellow.

Best regards,
Mike

Av8rRob 10-09-2018 09:32 AM

Making a paper 3D model is a great idea. If you could fine tune these and make assembly instructions im sure you could sell plenty. I would love to have a few for paint job comparisons.


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