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rzbill 06-14-2018 05:31 AM

I was reading this thread with the intention of saying the same thing as Bill did above.

There is a bent flange on the bottom. Plus you have to take the bend radius into account and a little space to get well into the flat part of the panel for switches, etc. CAD model is the unbent flat part.

In addition, there is a 3/4" angle aluminum riveted around the top and other edges. This can be intruded upon but (on a tip up) there is canopy structure that also occupies some of this panel area. Can't comment on slider.

Flying Canuck 06-14-2018 07:51 AM

Others have just commented on the bottom bend, you loose a lot of room with that. I have just enough room under my HDX (located similarly) for toggle switches and their labels. You need to have some clearance to your labels below that bottom ledge of the HDX as it does block the view.

One other detail is the location of your fwd fuselage ribs. You'll need to relocate the left one to fit the 10" display. Where the resulting flange sits behind the panel will create a bit of dead space that may impact your switch spacing and placement. There are also pre-drilled holes in the panel for the rib flanges - you probably want to hide the bottom one (the top one will come out with your display cut out) by planning a hole in that location for a switch or something.

I presume that you are using a tip up canopy - your photo log seems to indicate that. You have the canopy jettison handle to deal with - if you don't bring that through the top of the panel like the plans show, you'll still have a big pre-drilled hole to accomodate there.

The map box is a little tricky to place, you do have latitude with the actual location, but remember that the back of the box will go through your sub panel as well as a chunk of your canopy deck. Too far to the right and it could interfere with your fresh air inlet and plumbing. My map box doubles as the shelf for the Dynon transponder unit, so I placed it lower than you have it.

My panel layout is fairly similar to yours, I don't have any pictures handy, I'll have to get some and post them. Not perfect at all, but it came together well.

vlittle 06-14-2018 09:11 AM

I would recommend a separate IDENT pushbutton for the transponder. Saves key pressess during busy times. I second the motion to have two 10 inch screens.

Consider ditching the backup instruments in favour of a second ADAHRS and use the SkyView backup batteries.

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Av8torTom 06-14-2018 09:16 AM

Awesome!
 
These are awesome comments - keep 'em coming!!!

n981ms 06-14-2018 09:31 AM

I would certainly ditch the backup gauges.

I just priced them at spruce for about $500 for the pair.

A garmin G5 is $1308 with the harness.

Half the panel space and a fully redundant EFIS. Awesome overkill for a VFR panel. But who knows you might want to IFR equip someday.

This an aesthetics thing and I do love symmetry in general. However, I am in the camp of having 2 screens in front of the pilot rather than a symmetrical panel. #1 set to EFIS/Engine. #2 for the Map/AP/remote mounted items. I love a big ole map where I can see it and fiddle with the screen as needed.

agirard7a 06-14-2018 09:34 AM

Panel
 
Tom, your flap switch should be easily operated from your index finger while your hand is on the throttle. You can get a paddle switch that mounts on a momentary toggle. Same goes for auto pilot switches should be close to throttle. You don?t need an audio panel with the Garmin Gtr200 Radio which I highly recommend.

Av8torTom 06-15-2018 07:20 AM

Thanks
 
Thanks everyone - lots of great info here!

Jpm757 06-15-2018 01:17 PM

I would ditch the glove box, panel space is always at a premium, down the road you may wish you had that space. Why not 2 x 10" displays? You can always find a place for your gloves and other stuff.

springer 06-15-2018 01:46 PM

Keep you back up steam A/S indicator. I lost my Dynon EFIS/EMS instruments at a nearby airport and returned home with just the back up A/S. No need for a back up altimeter.


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