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Pilot135pd 02-28-2019 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9 (Post 1328353)
I have a WiFi only iPad and use ForeFlight and my echo/safefly gps with no problem, the position data works fine. But remember that the echouat itself has no gps. What position source was the echo using when you had issues?

Chris

The Echo with the SkyFYX GPS is exactly the combo I plan to use so then it seems like wifi only iPad is back on the table?

YellowJacket RV9 02-28-2019 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot135pd (Post 1328355)
The Echo with the SkyFYX GPS is exactly the combo I plan to use so then it seems like wifi only iPad is back on the table?

It?s worked fine for me with three generations of WiFi iPads.

Chris

Pilot135pd 02-28-2019 09:30 PM

Thank you !

Lars 02-28-2019 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9 (Post 1328353)
I have a WiFi only iPad and use ForeFlight and my echo/safefly gps with no problem, the position data works fine. But remember that the echouat itself has no gps. What position source was the echo using when you had issues?

Chris

Exactly that combo. 3 different aircraft. iPad didn?t know where it was. External gps chip solved the problem each time. My understanding was/is that the gps info supplied via the WiFi signal to the iPad couldn?t be used by the iPad for self-location. Only reporting what I personally observed.

Pilot135pd 02-28-2019 10:32 PM

So it may be a configuration issue if it works for some and not for others.

akschu 03-04-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertc (Post 1328179)
It only works if your app can eat ADSB data such as an EFB like Foreflight or iFly. It doesn?t go directly into the iPad. It works for me with iFly. YMMV

This is the answer, but I'll explain more to clarify:

The application that runs on your ipad is an application that can get it's GPS source from anything it's been designed to. So in the case of ifly or flyq or whatever, they know how to get the GPS position from the ADS-b receiver using the same connection it gets traffic from (wifi).

The ipad itself, and it's built in applications use the internal gps if there is one, or a bluetooth GPS (like a bad elf).

If the ipad is talking to an external GPS over bluetooth, it can export that data to any application.

So if you are fine with only having the GPS data when you are using a compatible app and ads-b receiver at the same time, then you can get away with a wifi only ipad. If you want GPS for anything else, you need to get the internal gps model or use a iOS supported external GPS.

If I had an airplane dedicated ipad, and the app I was using supported getting gps from the asb-r receiver I was using, I'd probably just get the wifi model.

Right now I'm using flyq and a stratux. When in flight the flyq app ignores the internal GPS and uses the one on the stratux because it's much more sensitive than the internal one on the ipad.

schu

Pilot135pd 03-04-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akschu (Post 1329143)
This is the answer, but I'll explain more to clarify:

The application that runs on your ipad is an application that can get it's GPS source from anything it's been designed to. So in the case of ifly or flyq or whatever, they know how to get the GPS position from the ADS-b receiver using the same connection it gets traffic from (wifi).

The ipad itself, and it's built in applications use the internal gps if there is one, or a bluetooth GPS (like a bad elf).

If the ipad is talking to an external GPS over bluetooth, it can export that data to any application.

So if you are fine with only having the GPS data when you are using a compatible app and ads-b receiver at the same time, then you can get away with a wifi only ipad. If you want GPS for anything else, you need to get the internal gps model or use a iOS supported external GPS.

If I had an airplane dedicated ipad, and the app I was using supported getting gps from the asb-r receiver I was using, I'd probably just get the wifi model.

Right now I'm using flyq and a stratux. When in flight the flyq app ignores the internal GPS and uses the one on the stratux because it's much more sensitive than the internal one on the ipad.

schu

That's pretty much what WingX replied when I asked them. They can get my GPS position info from the ADS-B traffic signal that's going into the WingX app. If I want to use any other WingX functions like gas prices, ceilings, visibility, etc, then I would need an iPad with cellular service, or my iPhone.

Pilot135pd 03-08-2019 02:28 PM

And to confirm what WingX told me here's uAvionix' answer:

Hi Carlos,

Thanks for contacting uAvionix about your ADS-B needs for your RV-8. The echoUAT is a prefect solution for your aircraft and tablet. You do not need the Cellular model. The WiFi only ipad will get the GPS location along with the Weather, Traffic, TFR and other data via the WiFi connection from the echoUAT.

WingX is compatible with the echoUAT and I've personally used this setup extensively with a WiFi only iPad Mini.

I hope this helps. Please check our our echoUAT / skyFYX GPS bundle here https://uavionix.com/products/echo-uat/ . Order yours today and put the 2020 Mandate behind you. Please let me know if you have any questions or need assistance with getting your echoUAT on the way.

Thanks,

Shane Woodson
uAvionix Corp.

Robertc 03-08-2019 04:07 PM

Shane, any updates on the disappearing targets. It happens to me on occasion.
Thanks,
Bob

Pilot135pd 03-08-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertc (Post 1330218)
Shane, any updates on the disappearing targets. It happens to me on occasion.
Thanks,
Bob

Shane didn?t post this information. I received it by email and posted it here.


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