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rvator51 03-22-2018 09:13 AM

That is really good news and finally I wont have to carry a redundant Stratus ADS-In receiver in the cockpit just for the iPads.

krw5927 03-22-2018 10:36 AM

Ugh, what a debacle.

For years, Dynon has pointed the finger at Foreflight and vice versa.

Then Dynon posts generically that their latest software update includes "Fixed: Wi-Fi traffic transmission to supporting apps improved." No mention of which supporting apps, of course.

Now some folks report that Foreflight shows traffic and weather streamed over Wi-Fi from Dynon. Others report that it still doesn't work. And to top it off, Foreflight seems to indicate it shouldn't be working yet but it might at some unknown point in the future.

At least Karl got a considered response from a human at Foreflight. After multiple feature request submissions, all I ever received in return was an automated form letter. Another bonus is that each company pointing fingers at the other seems to have finally stopped.

I really wish we could just carry a Stratux and be done with it, but Dynon refuses to support the industry-standard GDL-90 format.

Mark Dickens 03-24-2018 05:59 AM

Net-net: it still doesn?t work. I got no traffic at all on on ForeFlight during my trip down to Fort Lauderdale on Thursday. I don?t know why this is so hard for the companies to work out. Speaking for myself, this is a functionality that I need. Very frustrating:mad:

krw5927 03-25-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Dickens (Post 1248243)
Net-net: it still doesn?t work. I got no traffic at all on on ForeFlight during my trip down to Fort Lauderdale on Thursday. I don?t know why this is so hard for the companies to work out. Speaking for myself, this is a functionality that I need. Very frustrating:mad:

Confirmed to NOT work here as well. Installed 15.3.3 yesterday, went for a flight, and absolutely no traffic or weather from ADSB-470 was passed to Foreflight. Yet Dynon says they fixed it.

It?s clear that Dynon is in over their heads on this one. So frustrated with their complete lack of customer service I want to rip out my panel and install someone else?s gear. If only I had the time and money...

rvator51 03-25-2018 10:06 AM

To be fair, Dynon never said the weather and traffic would work with Foreflight. Foreflight is the one that needs to get their app to work with the data being transmitted by Dynon WiFi. In the past Foreflight limited access to just the Stratus receiver. It is great that they are finally opening up their app to other systems. That said, I want Foreflight to work with Dynon as much as anyone. What I can?t understand is how it can work with some and not with others. I wonder if it is really working with some or if there is some other reason it seems to work.

GalinHdz 03-25-2018 11:21 AM

FWIW I have display WX from my SkyView on my Android FltPlanGo app (using the CUSTOM tab) for about 1yr now. I didn't get traffic but I haven't tried it with the new v15.3.3 firmware update. Next time I fly, I will try it out.

:cool:

CubedRoot 03-25-2018 12:07 PM

The simplest solution would be for Dynon to start supporting GDL90 data streams both in and out.

Stratux (an opensource project that has little to no actual funding) has been sending WX and traffic data to Foreflight for years now, with no issues. Its not a Foreflight issue.....its a Dynon issue.

rvator51 03-25-2018 12:23 PM

I see it both ways. Foreflight could program their app to use current Dynon output and it would work. Sounds like that is what they are currently doing. Dynon also could have output a different format that works with Foreflight. To me this means that both companies didn?t want their apps to work together for various business reasons. It?s up to us to keep asking for this interface to work until one or other of the companies give us what we want.

CubedRoot 03-25-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rvator51 (Post 1248499)
I see it both ways. Foreflight could program their app to use current Dynon output and it would work. Sounds like that is what they are currently doing. Dynon also could have output a different format that works with Foreflight. To me this means that both companies didn?t want their apps to work together for various business reasons. It?s up to us to keep asking for this interface to work until one or other of the companies give us what we want.

I get that, but GDL90 is a pretty industry standard protocol, and one that Foreflight has supported for a long time now. Dynon, however, does not support this protocol. They are pretty much the only big EFIS maker that DOESN'T support this protocol unfortunately. The odd thing... AFS has been supporting GDL90 for a while now. Since Dynon owns them, its odd they don't just...you know...take a peek at that code and see how to do it. :-)

And of course, there is a relevant XKCD about standard protocols and companies deciding to make their own instead of using the standard:


krw5927 03-25-2018 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubedRoot (Post 1248494)
The simplest solution would be for Dynon to start supporting GDL90 data streams both in and out.

Stratux (an opensource project that has little to no actual funding) has been sending WX and traffic data to Foreflight for years now, with no issues. Its not a Foreflight issue.....its a Dynon issue.

THIS. Garmin, Advanced Flight Systems (a Dynon company), GRT, MGL.... ALL the competitors accept GDL90 over RS232. Dynon, meanwhile, continues dragging their entire customer base down the path of overpriced, proprietary boxes that didn't work correctly for nearly a year and don't talk to other devices. Yet they've never come out to explain why their proprietary box is better than a Stratux.


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