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PMLviator 04-26-2018 09:35 PM

washer wrench
 
Doug
Can you describe or explain your " washer wrench"?

Gagarin737 04-27-2018 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PMLviator (Post 1255944)
Doug
Can you describe or explain your " washer wrench"?

Cleaveland Aircraft Tool $37


DaleB 04-27-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gagarin737 (Post 1255953)

And worth every penny when you need them.

PMLviator 04-27-2018 06:30 PM

Thanks Joeri, it"s on order

RFSchaller 04-27-2018 07:39 PM

I have had some success putting a magnet on the bolt head after partial insertion and getting the washer to stay put on the bolt shank. This job needs all the tricks!

HansLab 04-28-2018 02:19 AM

Wrench
 
Yes, thanks for the pic, Joeri. It's on the projects-to-make-before-I-start-on-SB list.

Gagarin737 05-03-2018 12:16 PM

I installed the stabilator today. After glueing the washers with super glue I embedded the washers with epoxy. No problem with knocking off the washers. Still took some time to insert the bolts.

joedallas 05-19-2018 06:57 AM

I did not want the HS-01231C on top of the skin of the Stabilator.
I am doing a vinyl wrap and I have all CS4-X Rivets to keep the vinyl as flat as possible.

This is not a recommendation

Also this is not a cracked Spar repair.



See More

http://joesrv12.com/Builder%20Log/SB_18_02_02_01.htm

Joe Dallas

rvbuilder2002 05-19-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joedallas (Post 1261016)
I did not want the HS-01231C on top of the skin of the Stabilator.
I am doing a vinyl wrap and I have all CS4-X Rivets to keep the vinyl as flat as possible.

This is not a recommendation

Also this is not a cracked Spar repair.



See More

http://joesrv12.com/Builder%20Log/SB_18_02_02_01.htm

Joe Dallas

The full sized doubler was not designed specifically to a repair stabilators that were found to have cracks.
It was specifically designed based on doing an FEA (finite element analysis using a computer model), and analyzing the loads seen in the hinge joint / fwd spar.

My recommendation to other builders is that they install the parts as designed.
There will be no problem applying vinyl over the doubler (if that is your plan) after some experience is gained working with the wrap material.

joedallas 05-19-2018 11:10 AM

My View
 
Scott
I made it perfectly clear that this is not a recommendation.

We have different views on what a patch looks like.

I can install vinyl over LP4 Rivets and with a lot of finger time they look ok.

I think it looks better over CS4 Rivets.

And Vinyl over a Patch Still Looks Like A Patch in my view.

We also designed a lot of things before Computers were invented.

I sure if you ran a computer analysis on my design it would stack up pretty well with Van's and a lot better than Vans original design, and with only few problems worked pretty well.

However that is not the point, I am building EAB so I can have the Aircraft I want not a standard RV12 which is a well built Aircraft.

It is a good thing that Van used his own ideas to built all the great Aircraft in his line.

Thanks for your View







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Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002 (Post 1261032)
The full sized doubler was not designed specifically to a repair stabilators that were found to have cracks.
It was specifically designed based on doing an FEA (finite element analysis using a computer model), and analyzing the loads seen in the hinge joint / fwd spar.

My recommendation to other builders is that they install the parts as designed.
There will be no problem applying vinyl over the doubler (if that is your plan) after some experience is gained working with the wrap material.



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