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bnovak1220 02-10-2018 05:38 PM

Fitting Cabin Top
 
Checking to see if anyone else or if everyone has the same thing going on. I am running out of fiberglass on the sides of cabin top trying to get it down on the plane. I see that I need to counter sink them later and not sure if there will be enough fiberglass left.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156228993@N06

Electrogunner 02-10-2018 06:12 PM

Top
 
It does get fairly thin, probably 3/16?-1/4?or so. There will be plenty of material left to hold a countersink. Take off a little at a time until it slides in. I had it on and off probably 10 times for the fit. Patients, don?t rush it.

Kyle Boatright 02-10-2018 06:16 PM

I had the same concern in the door area (that's what you're talking about, right?) but there was plenty of material left at the end.

The countersinks turned out fine.

bnovak1220 02-10-2018 06:30 PM

Ok I attached a link to a photo of the area I'm talking about. Not sure if it will work. anyway I'm down to 1/8" outer lip and still doesn't fit.:(

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156228993@N06

Kyle Boatright 02-10-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnovak1220 (Post 1238579)
Ok I attached a link to a photo of the area I'm talking about. Not sure if it will work. anyway I'm down to 1/8" outer lip and still doesn't fit.:(

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156228993@N06

Mine was that or less. It was razor thin at the very edge. Thicker farther inboard.

Kinda spooky, huh? ;-)

Bill Boyd 02-10-2018 07:38 PM

Mine got pretty thin, too. Not an issue. When you look at it in final position, you realize the screws (in tension) along the bottom of the doorway have nothing to do with holding the top on, They only keep the "door jamb/threshold" steady when the door seats against it. I believe flox would hold it just as well.

The screws in the doorway sides and the rivets below the rear windows (in shear) are 90% of what hold the top in place against air loads, etc.

Don't sweat it. Keep trimming and fitting till it squeezes into place.

bnovak1220 02-10-2018 09:09 PM

Thanks guys that makes me feel better - going to hit again tomorrow and build on!:)

Electrogunner 02-11-2018 06:44 AM

Razor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright (Post 1238584)
Mine was that or less. It was razor thin at the very edge. Thicker farther inboard.

Kinda spooky, huh? ;-)

razor edge. My hands can attest to that, it got me a couple times before it was permanently attached

Bill Boyd 02-11-2018 07:02 AM

go take a look
 
Berkley, if you want to see one under construction with canopy mounted, go visit Jack Philips at Bedford Landings, Smith Mtn Lake. I assume it's not far by road from LYH. There may be others in your area also. Jack and I are about the same stage on the airframe, and he just got his panel in and powered up.

rocketman1988 02-11-2018 07:56 AM

Read This!
 
If you have the QB fuselage kit, there is a gotcha to watch for with the cabin top install.

Check to make sure that ALL of the rivets in the fuselage sill, both horizontal AND vertical sections ARE FLUSH RIVETS.

My QB fuse came with AN470 button head rivets in the vertical sections of the aft sill, 7 on each side. This made fitting the cabin top difficult and would have resulted in very thin fiberglass sections had I not found the problem.

Replacing those 14 rivets was fairly easy as access was available. When the flush rivets were installed the cabin top fit much better. There were still areas where the flange gets razor thin.

The plans say to just sand off the flange to the radius but I think most people will agree that they had to go well into the radius to get the top to fit. Seems to me that the cabin top door should have been 1/4" smaller. Then the plans would have been correct and most of us would still have a fiberglass radius on the edge...


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