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G3X Touch Software
Any words on when we can expect a fix or should we all revert to 5.6? Just looking for a little guidance before moving forward/backward. Thanks!
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5.70 touch
I flew with 5.7 yesterday, and noticed the touch interface wasn't as responsive as it was with my previous flights - meaning I would press buttons multiple times and they wouldn't register - or the would highlight, showing that I did press it - but it didn't activate. This was most prevalent when I was trying to type in the identifier for the waypoints
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First, a quick reminder that we are flying experimental aircraft. If you want a higher level of reliability it is going to come with increased costs and and fewer options (i.e. the world of certified aircraft).
That said, I think Garmin has maintained a remarkable level of reliability considering their rapid pace of development with a relatively small team of people. I'm grateful that I have panel with capability and a price-point people only dreamed about 10 years ago. One last note, I offered to do Beta testing for Garmin and they said their legal department will only let Garmin employees test software. |
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Version 5.90 (Mar 16, 2018) just showed up ...
https://www8.garmin.com/support/coll...t=010-00G3X-00 |
After the last go around I believe I will wait a few weeks before updating....
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Version 5.90
Installed 5.90 this morning, all went well. G5 was the slowest to update, so advise go slow in the the shutdown and reboot of G3X as the G5 takes a while to receive and update software.
AP worked fine and no other issues detected. G3X G5 GTN625 GDL39 GTR20 307 and VP-X Pro Steve |
Looks to be OK
Installed 5.90 Friday afternoon and took it up for a flight. Everything appears to work smoothly, including the G5, GSA28 Servos and GMC-307 controller.
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5.90
Flew 5.90 again today with AP, works as it should, thanks Garmin guys. No issues and no surprises.
Steve |
Which screen first?
Does it matter which screen receives the update first? PFD-MFD (Left to right) or MFD-PFD (right to left)??
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No, it doesn't matter, but personally I like to insert the software update card in the MFD and power up the MFD and update that display first, they power-up the PFD and update it. When the PFD resets after loading the software to internal memory, I hold down the menu key to bring it up in configuration mode so I can watch all of the various devices being updated on the system information page. Only when all of the software updating by the PFD is complete do I restart the system in normal mode. Thanks, Steve |
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i have only had luck by updating one at a time, and leaving the adjacent screen powered off completely
otherwise I get high network error rates on at least one module when updating, I have no idea why this is, and my can bus passes all the tests |
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Steve, This is interesting. I've always used 2 SD cards and updated the 2 screens at the same time. Any issue doing it this way? Thanks. Johan |
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No problem using 2 software update cards if that is what you want to do, but since it only takes about 15 secs to do a software update, I sure wouldn't take the time to create/maintain two software update cards. It is more common for people to use two database update cards to cut down the time for that loading activity, and perhaps that is what you meant. Thanks, Steve |
I just installed v 5.90 in an aircraft that previously had autopilot trouble with v 5.70. Everything seems okay. However, it took well over an hour just for the G5 update. The servo updates were about 15 minutes. The automatic update went in the sequence of GDU 465 (less than 20 seconds) then upon reboot the system updated the autopilot servos. Then came the G5 update. An hour later the servo update executed again. Glad I had a maintainer on the airplane. So be wary of the update if depending on ship's battery alone.
Jim |
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Hello Jim and Anthony,
Of course the software update I was referring to taking 15 seconds is the transfer of the new G3X Touch software for all LRUs into each GDU 4XX display from the SD card. The updating of each device on the can bus (e.g. servos and G5) which has new software for a particular update is an additional update time, but not generally long. If you are in configuration mode on the PFD and seeing a device taking a long time to update (e.g. G5), remove power from everything in the system but PFD1 and the device you are trying to load. This will remove all other communication from the CAN bus and streamline the software load to the device which is not completing the software update. It is ok to power up a few devices with PFD1 (e.g. all servos) when they are on the same power circuit, but the main thing is to remove as much as possible to reduce non-essential communications on the CAN bus during a software update. Powering off some devices on the CAN bus is generally not necessary, but can be a good way to resolve software update issues when observed. Please contact us directly by phone or email if you have additional questions. Thanks, Steve |
Us too.
We like the way Steve has mentioned. We take everything off line, then boot up the GDU. Load the new software and then bring the other items in the Garmin system on line. It take a minuet or less each time we up-date. We were running 5.7 with no problems and just switched to 5.9 a couple of flights ago. It so far checks out just fine.
I asked Garmin and they tell me that they are planning to bring the gear to up-date GTXer's to Sun and Fun, so we will get that done as well if needed. Hope this helps. Yours, R.E.A. III # 80888 |
5.9 anomaly report
I flew with 5.9 today on a multiple leg flight with 4 landings and shutdowns. On my first leg, the GMC307 lights would flash one at a time in a pattern (AP, NAV, and FD). The autopilot never unhooked and worked perfect while this was happening. The flights after this it never resurfaced. Anybody else have any reports?
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5.9 worked, no issues, today. I noticed the airplane icon (my plane) showed up as red in color. Does this indicate anything?
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qwerty??
I moved from 5.6 to 5.9 and I thought we were supposed to get a qwerty keybord in the update, is there a setting to change the format?
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It's a menu option---I believe under Main menu-->Setup.
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The ownship aircraft icon was changed to magenta (not red) on the charts due to some requests we received to improve the contrast of the ownship icon on those charts, especially in night mode. The digital map ownship icon remains white. Thanks, Steve |
I'm still having a screen refresh issue with 5.90... when zooming in, say for landing, it's many seconds before the dashed lines from previous flights go from swollen fuzzy blobs to the correct dashed line appearance. With previous releases, the screen would refresh in a couple seconds at most when zooming.
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It's hard to quantify, but I've also noticed that the system seems generally slower and more laggy than it did before 5.9.
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I just logged 10 hours over 2 days using 5.9 with no issues with the autopilot. However, I agree that refreshes of map data appear to be slow in certain circumstances - more so on the PFD than the MFD.
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We are going to replay several hours of V5.90 flight test videos and see if we can spot what you guys are talking about. :) We run a camera up close on the pilot side GDU 460 PFD, and always operate the displays in split screen mode with a map, so perhaps we will see something. It isn't uncommon for minor task scheduling adjustments to be made on a software release when analysis shows that improvements can be made, and since map drawing is a relatively low priority, it is possible we have impacted it in some small (but observable) way under certain conditions. Thanks, Steve |
I will add my voice to the screen refresh issue. I noticed a slightly longer delay between resolution updates when zooming. It also seems to take a long time for the charts to show up. Its always take a second or two but this weekend I was showing off my G3X Touch to a friend and when I flipped to the regular VFR chart it took about 5 seconds for the chart to render. I don't usually use it but there are times when its nice especially near Class B airspace shelves.
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I saw a significant new delay in map redraw for some map features with V5.70, enough so that I thought the software had frozen up at first. It did not seem nearly as bad in V5.90 although I don't have much time on the newer version yet.
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Hello,
We wanted to give you an update that we have been able to identify and correct the issue that was causing the map drawing delays that several have reported in V5.90 software. We are working on one additional improvement that we would like to get into the software related to the above report of flashing lights on the GMC 305/307 before we release V6.00. Thank you for your patience, Steve |
Any update on the v6.0 software? I'm still having the occasional flashing lights. Also, when I choose NAV it will not engage the magenta line. Sometimes both the NAV and HDG lights will be lit at the same time and I have to toggle back and forth until it will grab the NAV line.
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We expect V6.00 to be released within the next week. We apologize for the delay. Most of what you describe is normal autopilot behavior. If your active lateral mode is HDG and the plane is not close to and on an intercept path with the course line, when you press the NAV button on the GMC, NAV mode will be armed, but not active. Simply turn the aircraft with the HDG knob to put the aircraft on an intercept path with the course line, sit back, and watch the autopilot automatically capture the course line (NAV mode moves from armed to active and the HDG light goes out) when the aircraft is close to intercepting the course line. Thanks, Steve |
V6.00 Now Available
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After the issues with V5.7 (albeit minor), we are all a little less willing to be the guinea pig on a new release - especially a primary one ending in .0. However, I?m less than a week from a 4 week jaunt to Alaska and so I?m doubly shy.
Any PIREPs on this release (absence of problems and/or observations on new features) would really be appreciated. |
Flew once with 6.0 yesterday and the map redraw is definitely faster, although still not stellar. But, it's been so long since pre-5.70 that I can't remember if it's the same as it was before or not. Haven't tried AP performance, so no comment there. Yet.
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The AOA/stall warning tone has been intermittent on my system. I see "Improve AOA/stall warning tone output" in the changes to v6.0, is this likely to make tone reliable?
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what features constitute a major release for version 6.0?
It looks like mostly small improvements, are there any systems or modules that have received a rewrite? |
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