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Ed_Wischmeyer 12-16-2017 12:37 PM

So maybe the feds can?t do anything but if there?s an accident, the lawyers sure can. Maybe toss in some local laws on reckless operation of s motor vehicle. Yes, there?s federal law preempting local law but I?ve read of such charges bring filed.

greghughespdx 12-16-2017 01:09 PM

Like Bruce said, there are many of us around this here Portland area willing to help if you want someone to ride along so you can fly it and/or get the phase one test hours flown off. Myself included.

drjjbrown 12-16-2017 06:18 PM

Really nice of all of you to render advice. I generally try harder not to break the law than in my youth, but still have no problem encouraging others. I doubt my insurance would cover anything if I did have an accident, or absolute worst case hurt someone.

I am going to try to recruit enough people to go flying and contacts are great. I did some transition training with Mike Seagar but having not flown in a long time my skills are not there yet. My airplane is based at KHIO and I am a Chapter 105 member so someone may have met me. Feel free to ask Char or Joe to point me out at the breakfast.

Canadian_JOY 12-16-2017 06:54 PM

I was fortunate to help an aging EAA chapter member "stay in the game". There was no way he wanted to hang up his wings, sell his airplane. Being a pilot just meant too much to him.

We flew together for several years. They were good years, with many memorable flights. We had lots of great moments just sitting there after a flight, listening to the gyros spinning down, reflecting on what a wonderful pleasure it is to look down upon this beautiful earth.

My friend is gone now, his airplane and hangar have passed into the stewardship of another EAA chapter member.

As I reflect on the years we flew together I cannot help but feel good about helped my friend stay in the air. Some folks have asked why I was doing it. They'll not likely ever understand the pleasure that comes from helping a person keep their passion for flying alive.

Don't be afraid to reach out and have others help you fly your airplane. I know they will feel as I do, that it is an honor and a pleasure to assist a fellow flyer in living the dream of flight.

greghughespdx 12-16-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drjjbrown (Post 1226104)
Really nice of all of you to render advice. I generally try harder not to break the law than in my youth, but still have no problem encouraging others. I doubt my insurance would cover anything if I did have an accident, or absolute worst case hurt someone.

I am going to try to recruit enough people to go flying and contacts are great. I did some transition training with Mike Seagar but having not flown in a long time my skills are not there yet. My airplane is based at KHIO and I am a Chapter 105 member so someone may have met me. Feel free to ask Char or Joe to point me out at the breakfast.

I'll look for you at the January breakfast. I fly out of Twin Oaks.

FasGlas 12-17-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by airguy (Post 1226030)
Actually, you would be wrong on both counts.

https://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/new...-230053-1.html


Now, having said that, every man must weigh the consequences against the action, and pick their own path. If you don't screw up, you likely won't get caught.

What the feds "Can" do and what they "Will" do are two different worlds. It is a huge process to file criminal charges against a pilot, and a pilot with a lawyer it's nearly impossible. I closely followed a VERY notorious Aviation Criminal for years. This was a well known continual violator, including at least 6 deaths. After many many years of the feds rattling their limp sabers they finally revoked his license, WOW!!! Countless violations, big ones and multiple deaths, years and years of this.. And they finally pulled his ticket. And the limit is a year. Retest and you're a pilot again. Better yet, he went to Canada and got another license. All this is fact! Karma finally stepped in and he flew into a lake and killed himself.
Now, saying that.. I don't promote illegal flying and there is the liability you will except since your insurance will laugh at any claim. There is no doubt many people fly without a license and that was the question I posed.

sailvi767 12-17-2017 11:03 AM

I know you have worked hard on keeping your medical. Before you sell the plane give these guys a shot. I know several pilots who were told there was no way they would get a medical restored and were giving up. AMAS got their medical restored. They are the very best at this. If they tell you it cant be done then you know you have exhausted every option.
George

https://www.aviationmedicine.com

sblack 12-18-2017 09:21 AM

I bet there are lots of young pilots out there anxious to build time in something other than a c150. I know several guys around here who fly with copilots to still enjoy flying and be legal. They have lots of fun and adventures. Flying is more fun if you can share it with a friend. But if you have made up your mind to sell then that is unfortunate but understandable.

Bobo 01-15-2018 07:07 PM

+1 for AMAS! They are the absolute best at getting your medical back. I fly for a living and they have helped 2 of my professional pilot friends get their medical back when the outlook was originally very dismal.

flyboy1963 01-15-2018 07:18 PM

another option?
 
ok, just a shot in the dark....
if the plane ain't 'quite' finished yet, is it too late to make it one of those Rv-9's that's registered as a light-sport? would that help with the license issue?
yes, lots of limitations on payload and range, but once you're 'back in the saddle' you can deal with those as you so choose.

just a thought, hope it might help?


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