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Michaelpk3 12-12-2017 11:11 AM

Oil temps at altitude?
 
I'm planning a flight to Oklahoma from Florida. Looks like at altitude I'm going to be running around 0 degrees C. I'm running aeroshell 100 plus but I have access to a heated hanger and have oil sump heaters. What kind of oil temp would I expect at straight and level flight -4C to +2C range? I have a standard 7 row oil cooler from Vans. I have some clear weather later this week.

YellowJacket RV9 12-12-2017 11:55 AM

On a recent flight from FL to NC at 15000', OAT was -2*C, and oil temp 181 at cruise (50% power). I run XC 20W-50, and am generally between 180-190 at cruise power depending on temp, power setting, and altitude.

FWIW, if you haven't spent much time flying in those temps, make sure you cockpit is well sealed. My cabin heat works very well, but I could feel every tiny little draft in the cabin, especially coming in from the doghouse area of the sliding canopy. I have resolved to seal it better.

Chris

alpinelakespilot2000 12-12-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Michaelpk3 (Post 1225159)
I'm planning a flight to Oklahoma from Florida. Looks like at altitude I'm going to be running around 0 degrees C. I'm running aeroshell 100 plus but I have access to a heated hanger and have oil sump heaters. What kind of oil temp would I expect at straight and level flight -4C to +2C range? I have a standard 7 row oil cooler from Vans. I have some clear weather later this week.

This would depend wildly on what your OT's are at other OATs. Everyone's setup yields pretty different results.

mbuehler 12-12-2017 12:40 PM

My oil temps fall into the 140's at cruise with those outside temps. Getting up to 180 during the winter time is always a struggle, usually involves duct tape to restrict airflow.

Michaelpk3 12-12-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mbuehler (Post 1225188)
My oil temps fall into the 140's at cruise with those outside temps. Getting up to 180 during the winter time is always a struggle, usually involves duct tape to restrict airflow.



Thanks! I'll bring a roll of duct tape and see how I do after the first leg of the flight.

Northernliving 12-12-2017 05:39 PM

I've been flying in New England and pretty much have your setup/oil in an -8. With the OAT 0 C +/- 5, I'm getting oil temps in the 150-160 range. Too cold, IMO. I just purchased one of the "vans" oil cooler shutters that is now sold by Anti Splat Aero. https://antisplataero.com/products/o...er-air-shutter I've used them on other -8's and really like that you can dial your temp right into the desired level. Don't know how you could do that with tape and changing OAT's at different altitudes.

Brian

mbuehler 12-12-2017 07:01 PM

I have an adjustable shutter on my oil cooler. Even full closed / taped on the cooler I can't get enough heat, hence the black (color matched at least!) duct tape.

Down side to this is poor cooling on the ground that isn't adjustable. Keep an eye on temps if you find yourself in line for takeoff as they can creep up when you aren't moving. Otherwise, I went all last winter this way (as low as -5c on the ground while flying as high as 17,500 so quite cold) and it worked well.

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Originally Posted by Northernliving (Post 1225240)
I've been flying in New England and pretty much have your setup/oil in an -8. With the OAT 0 C +/- 5, I'm getting oil temps in the 150-160 range. Too cold, IMO. I just purchased one of the "vans" oil cooler shutters that is now sold by Anti Splat Aero. https://antisplataero.com/products/o...er-air-shutter I've used them on other -8's and really like that you can dial your temp right into the desired level. Don't know how you could do that with tape and changing OAT's at different altitudes.

Brian


chrispratt 12-12-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Michaelpk3 (Post 1225159)
I'm planning a flight to Oklahoma from Florida. Looks like at altitude I'm going to be running around 0 degrees C. I'm running aeroshell 100 plus but I have access to a heated hanger and have oil sump heaters. What kind of oil temp would I expect at straight and level flight -4C to +2C range? I have a standard 7 row oil cooler from Vans. I have some clear weather later this week.

What engine do you have? Big difference between an IO-360 and a carbureted O-360.

Michaelpk3 12-12-2017 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9 (Post 1225167)
On a recent flight from FL to NC at 15000', OAT was -2*C, and oil temp 181 at cruise (50% power). I run XC 20W-50, and am generally between 180-190 at cruise power depending on temp, power setting, and altitude.

FWIW, if you haven't spent much time flying in those temps, make sure you cockpit is well sealed. My cabin heat works very well, but I could feel every tiny little draft in the cabin, especially coming in from the doghouse area of the sliding canopy. I have resolved to seal it better.

Chris

I have the O-360 engine. The 7 row oil cooler wasn't enough cooling in the summer (added Antisplat cowl flaps to help) and now I'm facing the other side of that problem.

chrispratt 12-13-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelpk3 (Post 1225277)
I have the O-360 engine. The 7 row oil cooler wasn't enough cooling in the summer (added Antisplat cowl flaps to help) and now I'm facing the other side of that problem.

Interesting. With my O-360 I've always run cool even here in Texas whereas most of the IO-360 guys tend to run hot especially in climb.

During the hottest part of summer I'll get slightly above 180 degrees on the oil (but have never seen 190), and during winter will run around 165-170. At altitude (10K and below) full throttle level flight, I'll see 175 plus or minus a few degrees. I use the standard Vans oil cooler.

My Lyc tech adviser says cool is good and since I change oil every 25-30 hours, water in oil not an issue.

Chris


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