VAF Forums

VAF Forums (https://vansairforce.net/community/index.php)
-   RV General Discussion/News (https://vansairforce.net/community/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   thoughts on vans pricing release (https://vansairforce.net/community/showthread.php?t=155040)

Saville 11-10-2017 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n82rb (Post 1217975)
Thank you Mitchell for chiming in. Maybe a little more infowould put some of us more at ease. As I have said a few times, the wording has me worried. It uses some very wide open terms.

I think that's probably done on purpose given that Van's cannot predict delays and pricing.....they just can't know how things will shake out.

Larco 11-10-2017 12:43 PM

It might just knock the heck out of the resale value of the earlier models as well??

KatieB 11-10-2017 01:06 PM

I doubt resale will be affected. Most parts can be made from scratch. I made a wing leading edge skin, rudder skin, stiffeners, tail tips, hinge brackets, instrument panel, half my canopy frame, glass canopy skirt and tail fairing from raw stock. I've made wing ribs from form blocks too. I screwed up some of my Vans parts and just made new ones from scrap. Anything you get from Vans has to be trimmed, adjusted and drilled to your airframe anyhow. Its usually cheaper and quicker than ordering Van's parts.

ChiefPilot 11-10-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larco (Post 1218025)
It might just knock the heck out of the resale value of the earlier models as well??

It will for some, undoubtedly. The kind-of-ironic thing is that those will mostly be the same folks that couldn't install a new part (wing rib, for example) by themselves anyway.

EXflyer 11-13-2017 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KatieB (Post 1218030)
I doubt resale will be affected. Most parts can be made from scratch. I made a wing leading edge skin, rudder skin, stiffeners, tail tips, hinge brackets, instrument panel, half my canopy frame, glass canopy skirt and tail fairing from raw stock. I've made wing ribs from form blocks too. I screwed up some of my Vans parts and just made new ones from scrap. Anything you get from Vans has to be trimmed, adjusted and drilled to your airframe anyhow. Its usually cheaper and quicker than ordering Van's parts.

Heck when I was building my RV3 some parts were, well, basic starting points. The long rivets in the wing spar were things to loose sleep over trying to drive them before all of the neat tools showed up, after I had mine done. That was the good part, instructions were almost none existant, you picked thru the plans hoping you didn't miss something.
If it were today I would have a completed aircraft due to the fabrication Van has done since my kit.

KRviator 01-06-2018 10:08 PM

So The Mothership has released the updated prices for th RV-3...total has gone from $16,230 last year to $21,750. It isn't as bad as I had initially feared, but still a big chunk of change, with lead times listed as 2 months for all subkitw bar the empennage.

Anyone want to buy a low-time -9A? :-P

rv6builder 01-06-2018 11:38 PM

Thats really not bad at all. Two month lead time is nothing, takes me longer than that to clean the work shop sometimes.... Well maybe thats a slight exagguraton but still not a long wait.

Alex

arffguy 01-07-2018 01:46 AM

Yikes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 1230339)
So The Mothership has released the updated prices for th RV-3...total has gone from $16,230 last year to $21,750.


Wow, that's a 34 percent increase! For two grand more, you can have an RV-7 kit with all the extra work done for you.

Ironflight 01-07-2018 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arffguy (Post 1230352)
Wow, that's a 34 percent increase! For two grand more, you can have an RV-7 kit with all the extra work done for you.

Ahh....but that's the thing. If you look at the completed aircraft, the kit price is only about a third - figure a third for the kit, and a third for avionics and other equipment as well. So the 34 percent increase in the kit price isn't anywhere near as significant.

This is what people don't think about when looking at RV-3's. They figure "half the seats, half the airplane, half the price....." Nope - kit price is overwhelmed by the rest of what you need to make an airplane. A single-seater isn't that much less expensive than a two-seater...which is why so many people go with two-seaters. More bang for the buck. Unless you really savor the handling and performance of the single seater, and are in a situation where you can justify it.

Billythekid 01-07-2018 10:23 AM

the love
 
we are all in this for our own reasons and will do what ever we(as individuals) will do and to do what we want, be it build or fly and basically follow our free will... it really is pointless to ponder THEIR move.. I will build on.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:03 AM.