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g3xpert 11-07-2017 06:19 AM

Garmin G5 Flight Display V4.10 Software
 
We recently released new V4.10 software for the G5 Flight Display and updated the manuals to cover new features.

The previous manual was a combination Pilot Guide and Installation Manual, but we released separate manuals with this update to make them a little easier to use.
G5 Pilot Guide
G5 Installation Manual

There are many improvements in the V4.10 software, but one we want to mention is the new ability to support up to 2 navigators.



For example, you can now install dual GTN or GNS navigators, and select either for navigation just by pushing the knob and selecting the Source select field. Page 31 in the new Rev. G G5 Pilot Guide discusses using the Source select control for GPS, VOR, LOC or VLOC connected navigation sources.

Installation and configuration guidance for the following dual navigator options are shown in the new G5 Installation Manual. Other options are possible including GNS units in place of GTN units.

GTN with GNC 255
Dual GTN
Aera 660/796 with GNC 255
Aera 660/796 with GTN

Another installation option we wanted to mention is a standalone GDU 370/450/460/470 display with a G5. Not only can the GDU 37X/4XX be one of the navigators in the system using its built-in WAAS GPS receiver, but when external flight planning is selected, it can also receive flight plan and navigation data from a connected GTN/GNS and show all of the curved paths and holding patterns being shown on the GNS/GTN unit, but with a much bigger display mounted right in front of the pilot. At $2,995, the GDU 470 offers a lot of capability and value and can also connect to various ADS-B and SXM traffic and weather receivers like the GTX 345, GDL 39/39R, and GDL 52/52R for a complete traffic, weather, and music solution.



It isn't necessary to buy a complete G3X system to get an autopilot with ESP (also new with V4.10) and many other capabilities.

Let us know if you have questions.

Thanks,
Steve

Mark H 11-09-2017 08:10 AM

Steve,

Is it now possible with a G5 and standalone GDU 4XX to display the map full screen without an external navigator or is a GNS/GTN required for the display you show above? My understanding was that with a standalone unit the map would only display in a split screen setting. It sure would be nice to utilize that large screen for navigation and let the G5 be the primary flight instruments as describe above.

Thanks!

Mark

g3xpert 11-09-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark H (Post 1217651)
Steve,

Is it now possible with a G5 and standalone GDU 4XX to display the map full screen without an external navigator or is a GNS/GTN required for the display you show above? My understanding was that with a standalone unit the map would only display in a split screen setting. It sure would be nice to utilize that large screen for navigation and let the G5 be the primary flight instruments as describe above.

Thanks!

Mark

Hello Mark,

It has always been possible to install a standalone GDU 37X or GDU 4XX display (with or without a G5) and have it operate as a full screen map.

The GNS/GTN has nothing to do with that.

Keep in mind that if you have an ADAHRS or other G3X/G3X Touch components connected to the display using the CAN bus it is no longer just a standalone MFD with map and becomes a G3X system which will insist on showing the PFD information full time. That has probably been the confusion.

Note that in a system like this, the GDU 470 is not connected to the CAN bus that the G5 units, servos, and GMU 11 are connected to. The GDU 470 is providing navigation data to the G5 and autopilot using RS-232.



The panel mount GDU 470 in the above picture is providing the same function as the Aera 660 in this example system. Using just the flight planning and navigation features of the GDU 470 or Aera 660, you can even fly autopilot coupled VNAV descents to pattern altitude at the destination airport by just pushing the VNAV button on the GMC 307 during cruise.



Thanks,
Steve

Dan Langhout 11-09-2017 09:47 AM

37X ?
 
Quote:

Another installation option we wanted to mention is a standalone GDU 450/460/470 display with a G5. Not only can the GDU 4XX be one of the navigators in the system using its built-in WAAS GPS receiver, but when external flight planning is selected, it can also receive flight plan and navigation data from a connected GTN/GNS and show all of the curved paths and holding patterns being shown on the GNS/GTN unit, but with a much bigger display mounted right in front of the pilot. At $2,995, the GDU 470 offers a lot of capability and value and can also connect to various ADS-B and SXM traffic and weather receivers like the GTX 345, GDL 39/39R, and GDL 52/52R for a complete traffic, weather, and music solution.
So does this apply to the 37X units as well? I am assuming not since you didn't specifically mention it (but I can always hope ;)).

g3xpert 11-09-2017 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Langhout (Post 1217696)
So does this apply to the 37X units as well? I am assuming not since you didn't specifically mention it (but I can always hope ;)).

Hello Dan,

Yes, as mentioned in the previous posting:

Quote:

It has always been possible to install a standalone GDU 37X or GDU 4XX display (with or without a G5) and have it operate as a full screen map.
I will update the original post to include GDU 37X. Thanks for reminding me.

Thanks,
Steve

HSANTIBANEZ 11-09-2017 08:47 PM

Dear Steve, will the G5 display wind speed and direction?


Best Regards,

Hernan

g3xpert 11-10-2017 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSANTIBANEZ (Post 1217890)
Dear Steve, will the G5 display wind speed and direction?


Best Regards,

Hernan

Hello Hernan,

No, not currently.

Thanks,
Steve

Mlidzct 03-07-2018 08:37 PM

If I put together a basic system as shown above, with the exception of the stand alone mfd being a gdu 370, can the 370 be used for engine monitoring and remote xponder control if not setup as a full g3x?

g3xpert 03-08-2018 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mlidzct (Post 1244464)
If I put together a basic system as shown above, with the exception of the stand alone mfd being a gdu 370, can the 370 be used for engine monitoring and remote xponder control if not setup as a full g3x?

Hello Mlidzct,

Not currently. Those are two features which really push the system over into G3X territory.

To control a remote transponder you need a GSU 25, which in combination with one or more displays, a GMU 11 magnetometer, and OAT probe is a basic G3X system.

Add the GEA 24 engine monitoring interface to that for the engine gauges.

If you already have engine monitoring and panel mount COM and Transponder, the system below starts to make sense (for traffic, weather, flight planning, navigation, autopilot, etc), but otherwise the basic G3X Touch system is probably the most attractive and cost effective.



For a single display system in most aircraft, the 10.6" GDU 460 is really hard to beat since it provides the space and user interface to do everything well.


Thanks,
Steve

gyoung 03-08-2018 08:49 AM

Is there a SW release with this feature for the certified units?
Can an SL-30 be used as the 2nd source?
Will the HSI display both sources?

I just installed 2 G-5's in my Navion and love them.


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