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mfleming 10-19-2017 09:16 PM

Completed Initial Leak Test of The Left Tank
 
Initial test of the left fuel tank has passed.

The Float access plate was tested with the cork gasket installed. Now that the initial test was a success, I'll pull the plate, remove the cork gasket, pro seal up the plate, reinstall and retest.

The multimeter is measuring ambient temperature for a reference as I recorded pressures during the test.

During the test I used a leak test fluid to check all the seams and rivets.




jcarne 10-19-2017 09:22 PM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. I'll be right behind you, I'll probably get to that in a couple of weeks.

Tag 10-19-2017 11:23 PM

Lots of luck! My RV8 tanks are being tested now also. So far, so good....

Beancounter 10-19-2017 11:32 PM

I will keep my fingers crossed for you too, that the cork gasket wont turn to goo like mine did.

mfleming 10-20-2017 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beancounter (Post 1212439)
I will keep my fingers crossed for you too, that the cork gasket wont turn to goo like mine did.

Van's and Synergy recommend eliminating the cork gasket and just using sealer now.

mfleming 10-20-2017 08:57 PM

Second Tank Passed
 
Completed my initial leak check on my second tank today...Passed.

Tomorrow I'll seal up the end plates, let them cure for a couple of days and then do a final leak check on the tanks.


Using leak detection fluid to track down any leaks.


jcarne 10-21-2017 08:03 AM

Great news!

Draker 10-23-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfleming (Post 1212683)
Van's and Synergy recommend eliminating the cork gasket and just using sealer now.

Did Van's post anything publicly to that effect? I'm getting close to closing my tanks up and am still going back and forth on "cork + Permatex" vs "cork + Proseal" vs. just Proseal.

RV74ME 10-23-2017 04:17 PM

When i took the factory tour, the guy there told me to toss the cork gasket as far as i could!!

mfleming 06-11-2020 10:52 AM

For The Historical Record
 
I realized that I never really finished this thread.

So after both tanks passing the initial leak test I removed the cork gaskets and installed the plates with just pro seal.

After letting the tanks cure for at least two weeks, I retested using the same procedure. Both tanks passed the leak tests.

Procedure used for testing tanks:
  1. Closed or sealed up all tank openings
  2. Installed a 0 to 15 inches of water pressure gauge on the tank drain fitting.
  3. Set up a temp probe next to the tank.
  4. Pressured up tank to 9 inches of water.
  5. Recorded the pressure and temperature every 30 minutes to an hour for over 12 hours.
  6. Used leak test fluid periodically to look for leaks. (SNOOP or equivalent)
  7. Let sit overnight, continued recording temp and pressure for another 12 hrs.
  8. Ended test

The pressure / temp recording allowed me to track the pressure movements (and they will move) during the 24 hr test. The method for making sense of the pressure fluctuations is:

Pressure fall and temp falls = normal contraction of air volume.
Pressure rises and temp rises = normal expansion of air volume.
Pressure falls and temp stays the same or rises = possible leak
Pressure stays the same and temps rise = possible leak
Pressure increases and the temp falls = laws of physics ceased working ;)

1001001 06-11-2020 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfleming (Post 1438392)



Pressure increases and the temp falls = laws of physics ceased working ;)

meh. something something dark matter something handwave.

AlpineYoda 06-11-2020 11:08 AM

Maybe a dumb question, but what cork gasket are you referring to?

I ask, because I happened to install my fuel senders in my RV-10 wings over the weekend. The senders that came from Van's with the wings had a black rubber gasket.

mfleming 06-11-2020 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineYoda (Post 1438396)
Maybe a dumb question, but what cork gasket are you referring to?

I ask, because I happened to install my fuel senders in my RV-10 wings over the weekend. The senders that came from Van's with the wings had a black rubber gasket.

The -7 kit came with a cork gasket to seal the float mechanism plate. I't was suggested by Van's and Synergy Air that not using the gasket was a viable option. Apparently some of the cork gaskets would fail over time.

1001001 06-11-2020 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineYoda (Post 1438396)
Maybe a dumb question, but what cork gasket are you referring to?

I ask, because I happened to install my fuel senders in my RV-10 wings over the weekend. The senders that came from Van's with the wings had a black rubber gasket.

I got rid of those rubber gaskets and just used the tank sealant. Worked fine on both tanks.

Draker 06-11-2020 11:46 AM

I actually ended up using the cork gasket, but coated with Permatex "Aviation Form-a-gasket" including around each screw:



No leaks through the gasket, however both tanks still leak through the capacitive plate BNC connectors. Haven't figured out how to solve that one yet.

RV7A Flyer 06-11-2020 11:46 AM

I got rid of the whole access plate, and never cut the hole in the first place (but I have the capacitive sensors Van's used to sell...never a bit of an issue with them, knock on wood).

It can't leak if there's no hole there in the first place :)

DanH 06-11-2020 06:27 PM

Shop leak testing is a good thing, but realize the real test comes when you G 'em up with 120 lbs of gas in 'em.

1001001 06-11-2020 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanH (Post 1438511)
Shop leak testing is a good thing, but realize the real test comes when you G 'em up with 120 lbs of gas in 'em.

Can't wait!


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