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shoprat 08-26-2017 11:41 AM

BRS Chute Installation for RV10
 
For those interested in installing a BRS chute in their RV10, I have some good news. Several builders, including myself, have signed purchase agreements which has gotten the design and engineering phase started. Should see the first kits by the first of the year or before. I'll send updates as the process progresses.

Bruce McGlamery
Winter Springs, FL

raabs 08-26-2017 02:19 PM

Interesting...any approximations on weight of the system?

shoprat 08-26-2017 03:02 PM

BRS Chute for RV10
 
No. Too soon. They just got the aircraft into their CAD engineering software. Will be a couple of months before we see any details.

Bruce

Electrogunner 08-26-2017 03:06 PM

Chute
 
Very interesting. I'll keep an eye on this one. It will be neat to know how this can be done using existing structures in the RV10. I can imagine the weight penalty will be substantial.

soloff 08-27-2017 07:58 AM

I'm interested as well if the weight and CG stays reasonable

TimJRV10 08-27-2017 08:29 PM

I'm Interested
 
I'm interested too! My brother suggested I buy a used Cirrus instead of building the RV10 due to the 'chute. My empennage kit is ordered. Having the BRS chute would be a big plus!

rocketman1988 08-27-2017 08:47 PM

Curious
 
I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...

OkieDave 08-27-2017 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman1988 (Post 1199530)
I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...

Originally, it was included because the Cirrus can't recover from a spin--the ability to recover is a certification requirement, so the FAA allowed the BRS as an alternate means of compliance.

Beyond that, I think it's the tool of last resort any time a pilot gets in over his head. The Cirrus is a very high-performance aircraft, and we all know what happens when you mix that with a pilot who can't stay proficient; think "fork-tailed doctor killer."

shoprat 08-28-2017 06:15 AM

BRS Chute Installation for RV10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman1988 (Post 1199530)
I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...

Night, over mountains, lost engine with oil on the windscreen, and blue haze in the cabin......

Bruce

KatanaPilot 08-28-2017 06:25 AM

Not entirely accurate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OkieDave (Post 1199534)
Originally, it was included because the Cirrus can't recover from a spin--the ability to recover is a certification requirement, so the FAA allowed the BRS as an alternate means of compliance.

Beyond that, I think it's the tool of last resort any time a pilot gets in over his head. The Cirrus is a very high-performance aircraft, and we all know what happens when you mix that with a pilot who can't stay proficient; think "fork-tailed doctor killer."

I think you can easily find data to refute this statement. I believe the issue was more that the SR-20/22 did not meet the Part 23 recovery guidelines and the CAPS was installed as the AMOC. The DA40XLS with winglets did not meet the spin recovery requirements either, so the winglets were never delivered on these aircraft.

From Part 23 -

A single-engine, normal category airplane must be able to recover from a one-turn spin or a three-second spin, whichever takes longer, in not more than one additional turn after initiation of the first control action for recovery, or demonstrate compliance with the optional spin resistant requirements of this section.

Check out the article from COPA here.


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