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YellowJacket RV9 03-24-2018 12:30 PM

Here ya go, fixed the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr92SjkTynA

LykkeEspersen 03-24-2018 01:04 PM

Thanks Chris:)
Lasse

Jake14 03-24-2018 11:42 PM

Probably a dumb question, but I've seen taildragger pilots keep the tail lifted with throttle and elevator while holding the brakes. In the case of a damaged nose wheel, would there be any benefit to applying throttle and brake with full up elevator before the nose starts to drop?

scard 03-25-2018 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake14 (Post 1248405)
Probably a dumb question, but I've seen taildragger pilots keep the tail lifted with throttle and elevator while holding the brakes. In the case of a damaged nose wheel, would there be any benefit to applying throttle and brake with full up elevator before the nose starts to drop?

Not a dumb question at all. The elevator is always already full up, and the throttle is yet another tool available to fully manage the precise time, place, and rate of nosewheel touchdown. Use all tools at your disposal at the appropriate time.

Snowflake 03-25-2018 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake14 (Post 1248405)
Probably a dumb question, but I've seen taildragger pilots keep the tail lifted with throttle and elevator while holding the brakes. In the case of a damaged nose wheel, would there be any benefit to applying throttle and brake with full up elevator before the nose starts to drop?

Not a dumb question. With the main gear on the A model much further back, the moment arm for the elevator to act on around the pivot point (the wheels) is much shorter... You may have a lot less control authority to keep the nose up with. Also, with the gear behind the CG on the A model, you have the weight of the aircraft working against you as well.

pr1malr8ge 03-31-2018 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy8or (Post 1248308)
I'd love to watch the video, but the link doesn't work. Do you still have your RV-9? Your signature suggests you donated it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr92SjkTynA

hope this helps

Lars Jensen 04-26-2018 08:24 AM

Anti-spalt installed
 
Just to clear it up: this plane had the antisplat installed..

G-CCVS Youtube

I know because the wreck is in my garage..

Cheers
Lars J

dlomheim 05-12-2018 11:16 PM

RV-4 w/nose gear?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002 (Post 1197325)
Maybe not at your airport, but there was just one yesterday.....

https://www.facebook.com/LyonCountyN...23864054292217


The NTSB investigator's analysis was a bit off related to this RV-4 loss of control nose over.

Analysis: "The pilot of the tailwheel-equipped airplane reported that, during landing, the airplane bounced. On the third bounce, the airplane veered off the runway to the left, the nosewheel impacted a sandbar, and the airplane nosed over".

Doug Lomheim
RV-9A FWF
RV-3A Sold

PerfTech 05-15-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lars Jensen (Post 1255752)
Just to clear it up: this plane had the antisplat installed..

G-CCVS Youtube

I know because the wreck is in my garage..

Cheers
Lars J

..The "Nose Job" installed on this aircraft, suffered a severe
impact on one of the prior landing attempts, that was violent
enough to defeat it, and the gear leg as well. At that point
it became a non factor, and couldn't help prevent this nose
over (as nothing is indestructible!). In the situation he was
in, most likely the better choice would always be a paved
or concrete runway surface. The nose gear assembly would
just slide and grind along to a stop, and the nose over would
be extremely unlikely. Nose overs of most any type aircraft
just don't occur on improved surfaces. Thanks, Allan..:eek:

flightlogic 05-15-2018 05:35 PM

boring NOT
 
The timely video is a great tool. I would not have posted the text comments right when the nose touches.... I had to rewind many times and attend to the nose. It is like having subtitles on an English movie. I can't help but read them anyway.
BUT.... the detailed view of the assembly behavior is priceless. I can feel all that I saw in your video, in my 9A. Just can't see it. On your inadvertent liftoff... I don't think it was all that bad. Slight vibration fore and aft. But, I agree, it is to be avoided. I find it hard that the original crash pilot did not know what damage was done on the first attempt. It HAD to be felt through the airframe. I would have had some friends look it over before I landed again.
And as Alan mentioned... some pavement would have been nice.


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