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SPX 01-25-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bspellerin (Post 1402954)
OK, I tried using SmugMug as opposed to Google Photos, hope this works. My transition training was easier than this.

Great photos! Thank you for sharing them.

bspellerin 01-25-2020 08:28 AM

Thank you, my pleasure now that I know how.

Sam Buchanan 01-25-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bspellerin (Post 1402956)
Thank you, I'm really enjoying it.

I don't believe the previous owner had any tailwheel time at all, or very little. He and his father flew it to Calif, he mentioned to his wife his landings were scary and that did it for her.

Well...yes.....that could make for scary landings..... ;)

gmcjetpilot 01-25-2020 05:09 PM

May no one have loss of power in flight, but if you do.... may it be over a hard back flat dry dirt road next to a farm with no obstructions... Sweet! BTW when balloonist land in a farmers field it is tradition to give them a bottle of champagne.

What was the reason for engine loss of power?

PS Wife on board.... so when will it be for sale??????? Message me. :D

Jeff kudlo 01-25-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by C. Brenden (Post 1158799)
I was providing ATC flight following to this pilot when his emergency happened. He did a great job of communicating his situation and obviously of making an engine out landing safely. I was VERY VERY relieved when I heard he was safely on the ground. Good job!

Kudos to you Craig for being a huge part of that outcome. Recently, I flew out to ABQ for the first time and was highly impressed with the ATC service. I take every opportunity to remind our folks here of the assistance we can provide in situations just like you experienced. ZOB-Cleveland Center

bspellerin 01-26-2020 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot (Post 1403072)
May no one have loss or power in flight, but if you do.... may it be over a hard back flat dry dirt road next to a farm with no obstructions... Sweet! BTW when balloonist land in a farmers field it is tradition to give them a bottle of champagne.

What was the reason for engine loss of power?

PS Wife on board.... so when will it be for sale??????? Message me. :D

Not very likely, sorry. She's taking lessons and just about ready to solo.

ao.frog 01-26-2020 09:11 AM

I saw this tread just now, and WELL DONE to getting the plane safely on the ground!
Thanks also for the pics showing the beautiful -8 back in the air!

I didn't see anywhere in the tread the reason for the engine failure? Or maybe it's written there and I didn't see it?

Regarding shutting down the engine for practice forced landings, I never do that. Instead, I put down t/o flaps. Then an aircraft with idling engine has approx the same drag as an aircraft with a windmilling engine.
I learned about this here on VAF years ago and I've done it since then when I practice engine out landings.

Also; in my engine out forced landing checklist, I've another item: prop control (C/S-prop) full coarse. (pulled fully out)
During testing in phase 1, I found that VVI went from 900fpm (blue knob full fwd) to 600fpm (blue knob fully aft)
That should give me approx 30% (!) more time in the air during an actual engine failure.

I never tested this with the engine shut down, I only tested it with the engine at idle.

Has anyone done this test with an engine shut down? If so; what was your findings?

Can anyone confirm this: that the sinkrate will decrease with a prop to coarse?

Thanks.

goatflieg 01-26-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bspellerin (Post 1402960)
Thank you, my pleasure now that I know how.

Those photos were worth waiting for... just the thing to light my fire and get back to the build!

goatflieg 01-26-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ao.frog (Post 1403177)
I never tested this with the engine shut down, I only tested it with the engine at idle.

Has anyone done this test with an engine shut down? If so; what was your findings?

Can anyone confirm this: that the sinkrate will decrease with a prop to coarse?

Thanks.

Peter Lert has; he learned from Burt Rutan that if you can stop the prop, your drag will decrease significantly. He has done it successfully during an actual engine failure. Peter has written about it, and also discussed it with Jason Miller on his podcast The Finer Points Of Flying.

swjohnsey 01-26-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ao.frog (Post 1403177)
I saw this tread just now, and WELL DONE to getting the plane safely on the ground!
Thanks also for the pics showing the beautiful -8 back in the air!

I didn't see anywhere in the tread the reason for the engine failure? Or maybe it's written there and I didn't see it?

Regarding shutting down the engine for practice forced landings, I never do that. Instead, I put down t/o flaps. Then an aircraft with idling engine has approx the same drag as an aircraft with a windmilling engine.
I learned about this here on VAF years ago and I've done it since then when I practice engine out landings.

Also; in my engine out forced landing checklist, I've another item: prop control (C/S-prop) full coarse. (pulled fully out)
During testing in phase 1, I found that VVI went from 900fpm (blue knob full fwd) to 600fpm (blue knob fully aft)
That should give me approx 30% (!) more time in the air during an actual engine failure.

I never tested this with the engine shut down, I only tested it with the engine at idle.

Has anyone done this test with an engine shut down? If so; what was your findings?

Can anyone confirm this: that the sinkrate will decrease with a prop to coarse?

Thanks.

Sink rate definitely decreases with prop to coarse (low rpm) on my RV-4 with IO-360 Hartzell CS.


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